# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/621 "2019-02-18T16:42:22Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Ha. Klyden is the little old lady that spies on everyone and injects herself into their business and calls the cops on everyone all day. “His **dog** will not stop **barking**!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/622 "2019-02-18T17:20:50Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Locar dances with Talla, then Talla gets called away. To deal with an unwanted flower delivery… ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/623 "2019-02-18T17:30:48Z")
I didn’t catch that the flower’s voice was Bruce Willis until I read it yesterday! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/624 "2019-02-18T17:52:55Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Ha. Klyden is the little old lady that spies on everyone and injects herself into their business and calls the cops on everyone all day. OMG, yes. He’s Gladys Kravitz. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/625 "2019-02-18T18:01:34Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > What made Klyden suspicious of Locar? Maybe he had a suspicion because of the taste of Locar’s tooth. “Something’s fishy!” I’m really sorry. > [@](#): > > A sort of Moclan gaydar. Wouldn’t it be ‘straightdar’? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/626 "2019-02-18T18:14:49Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > I didn’t catch that the flower’s voice was Bruce Willis until I read it yesterday! Mind=blown! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/627 "2019-02-18T22:01:16Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Wouldn’t it be ‘straightdar’? We’re just going to have to come up with a whole new nomenclature. Figuring out “gay” and “straight” with a (nominally) all-male species is akin to trying to conjugate verb tenses for time travel. We will-have-haven-had figured this out at some point. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/628 "2019-02-18T22:03:28Z")
Moclans don’t view themselves as male, right? I mean, they are sort of - since they convert their females - but their official belief is that they’re all one gender and some babies are deformed and need a correction. As such, shouldn’t they not have a concept of straight/gay, and shouldn’t be dating a male or female of another species be equally valid? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/629 "2019-02-18T22:21:58Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Moclans don’t view themselves as male, right? I mean, they are sort of - since they convert their females - but their official belief is that they’re all one gender and some babies are deformed and need a correction. As such, shouldn’t they not have a concept of straight/gay, and shouldn’t be dating a male or female of another species be equally valid? It is certainly damned confusing. I figure they are like worms and orchids and have both sets of reproductive equipment. One wonders what animals of their planet are like, and whether it was a shock to find intelligent species that are sexed. You would think that Union biologists would straighten things out about what gender to call them, though. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/630 "2019-02-19T04:57:10Z")
I thought it was a well-done episode. Had some subtle humor, tackled a serious social issue with the typical sci-fi flip to make you think, created a mystery that probably wasn’t as easy to solve for anyone not familiar with “Court Martial”, and developed some characters important to the show (Kelli and Seleyan#2). Plus, now it introduces a new dynamic to the Bortus - Klyden marriage. I think the last two episodes are clearly in the show’s top five to date. Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/631 "2019-02-19T14:23:59Z")
For me, the last two episodes are middle of the pack (which is still pretty good, because I like most of the episodes of this show), but the two before that are among the best. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/632 "2019-02-22T03:05:06Z")
Semi spoiler from tonight’s episode It ain’t the Moclans. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/633 "2019-02-22T03:06:28Z")
So; another Bortus episode. Bortus doesn’t get a corner piece… joking… Damn, what are they going to do? All I can figure is that Issac will decide to save them somehow. Otherwise he’s written out of the show. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/634 "2019-02-22T03:20:29Z")
Oh…my…god!!! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/635 "2019-02-22T03:22:32Z")
Judging from the early comments I’ve seen elsewhere, it really does seem like I am in the Negative Universe of the fandom of this show. I would rate this episode among the lowest of the show’s run so far. It was far and away the lowest through the first 45 minutes, until the final twist partially redeemed it–albeit not without doing even greater damage to Isaac’s character growth as seen in recent episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Garak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Garak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garak)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/636 "2019-02-22T03:31:58Z")
ok tonight’s ep was epic, simply epic I did not expect that at all ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/637 "2019-02-22T03:34:12Z")
**davidm** and **SlackerInc** They’ve already written one character out of the show. What’s to stop them from writing off another? And **SlackerInc** , they damaged a character’s growth? That’s your takeaway from tonight’s episode? Really?😕 However They’ve already established that the doctor’s N-grams or whatever they called them have had an effect on Isaac’s programming. Isaac will do something to foil the attack.The day will be saved. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/638 "2019-02-22T03:54:44Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > ok tonight’s ep was epic, simply epic > > I did not expect that at all Yeah, that went to a far darker corner than the show has previously attempted. I’m digging it. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/639 "2019-02-22T04:00:30Z")
I wonder if spoilers are really necessary once it’s aired. People who haven’t seen it yet should know to stay out of the thread. But I’ll continue to use spoiler boxes until we decide otherwise. I liked this episode, but this is the Dope and nitpick we must, so… [Spoiler]What kind of security systems allow a child to leave the ship on a whim without stopping him, or at least notifying someone? The Kaylons say that the Union must be eliminated to make more room for themselves. I have to believe that the vast majority of planets are not inhabitable by humans and that many of those planets will however support Kaylons, since they presumably don’t breath and can withstand a wider range of temperature and gravity, so there should be plenty of real estate that they can use that would be useless to humans and other biologicals.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/640 "2019-02-22T04:09:25Z")
DavidM. I fully concur. (I tried quoting your post but it did so with the spoiler showing.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=33)