# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/741 "2019-02-27T13:41:43Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > … > > With the Orville, I could imagine Seth would go so far as to include BSG or Star Wars in his pop culture pantheon. But I think it’s a timeline very similar to ours but lacking either Trek or of course “The Orville” itself. Could “Family Guy” exist in their timeline? Hmmm… > > … I’m imagining a scene where Malloy and Lamarr are trying to explain the humor in a “Family Guy” episode to Bortus. Especially if it involves a vignette that requires an understanding of Earth culture from the 21st century or earlier. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/742 "2019-02-27T15:21:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > _Star Trek: Enterprise_ had something similar: [Military Assault Command Operations | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Military_Assault_Command_Operations) Exactly- I liked the MACO idea, even if they didn’t just detail Reed and his crew to go do stuff. I actually think it could be MORE interesting from a dramatic and storytelling point of view if they did just that- Mercer tells Kiyali to go get someone/some thing on the planet, and we see the whole thing happen from the bridge crew’s perspective, complete with incomplete communication, suspense, etc… More of a situation of letting the viewer’s mind fill in the gaps, rather than writing out a longer scene where everyone schleps it down to the surface. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/743 "2019-02-27T18:20:55Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I’m imagining a scene where Malloy and Lamarr are trying to explain the humor in a “Family Guy” episode to Bortus. Especially if it involves a vignette that requires an understanding of Earth culture from the 21st century or earlier. giant chicken - would pay to see that. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/744 "2019-02-28T19:12:36Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Mind you I had guessed this twist when they first introduced the Kaylon character and race first ep but had changed my mind by this point. Loving the show so far, and surprised this episode went this far into dark themes. BUT it is true that since the first mention that Isaac is “studying biologicals” and “sending reports,” every time those behaviors were mentioned throughout the series, I’ve mumbled “Studying why? Sending reports for what purpose? Doesn’t this alarm the Orville’s officers?” My poor wife just nods each time at the interruptions. Imagine where this will leave Ed’s career prospects. Resume bullets: [ul] [li]Collaborated with a Krill renegade[/li][li]Pissed off Moclan society[/li][li]Blew first contact with Regorians[/li][li]Exterminated biological life in the galaxy[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/745 "2019-02-28T19:23:25Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Imagine where this will leave Ed’s career prospects. Resume bullets: > > [ul] > [li]Collaborated with a Krill renegade[/li][li]Pissed off Moclan society[/li][li]Blew first contact with Regorians[/li][li]Exterminated biological life in the galaxy[/li][/ul] No problem, who’s going to read it? ---
**Author:** ![Garak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Garak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garak)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/746 "2019-02-28T19:25:31Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I think everybody’s missing the most important part of this episode: who knew Helmsman Gordon had such pipes? He belted out “Goodbye” by Air Supply like a pro! he sings on American Dad too ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/747 "2019-02-28T20:04:32Z")
> [@Jane\_Elliot](#): > > Various authors have said that in writing you must kill all your darlings. I’d love to see that here with Isaac. As would I, but I doubt they have the guts. I’d say there’s three chances in four we’ll discover tonight that Isaac was playing against his fellow Kaylons all along; upon returning, probably at some point in the deactivation/reactivation process, he learned about the Kaylon plan to attack Earth. He decided, based on some Isaacish robot logic, that he must stop it, but in order to do so he had to play along lest his treason be discovered by the Kaylons. He’ll step up in the nick of time to help stop the attack, and then in an expository speech, reveal he had been plotting to avert the attack all along. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/748 "2019-02-28T20:37:54Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > As would I, but I doubt they have the guts. I’d say there’s three chances in four we’ll discover tonight that Isaac was playing against his fellow Kaylons all along; upon returning, probably at some point in the deactivation/reactivation process, he learned about the Kaylon plan to attack Earth. He decided, based on some Isaacish robot logic, that he must stop it, but in order to do so he had to play along lest his treason be discovered by the Kaylons. He’ll step up in the nick of time to help stop the attack, and then in an expository speech, reveal he had been plotting to avert the attack all along. You are probably correct, but I’d like to see him killed off or become a returning antagonist. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/749 "2019-02-28T20:50:30Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You are probably correct, but I’d like to see him killed off or become a returning antagonist. I want to see a moclan divorce. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/750 "2019-02-28T20:56:43Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I want to see a moclan divorce. We already have. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/751 "2019-02-28T21:01:45Z")
I can’t see how they can stop this attack, and hold off the Kaylons longer term, whether they keep the Isaac character or not. How can Issac stop the attack? I hope it’s not some simulation or test or dream, that would be a real copout. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/752 "2019-02-28T21:12:16Z")
There was Chekov’s Shutdown. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/753 "2019-02-28T21:15:31Z")
Issac;s deactivation was in the script so we will know why all the robots fall down. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/754 "2019-02-28T21:15:46Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > There was Chekov’s Shutdown. Meaning what? ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/755 "2019-02-28T22:43:55Z")
> [@Jane\_Elliot](#): > > Various authors have said that in writing you must kill all your darlings. I’d love to see that here with Isaac. I agree; it would be a neat twist to see the crew of the Orville have to basically kill Isaac to save Earth, much like the original plan in “I, Borg” would have gone, had they not lost their balls on the Enterprise. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/756 "2019-02-28T22:48:53Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Meaning what? He’s saying they set a precedent where Kaylons can be remotely deactivated, which they could then use to shut down all the Kaylons involved in the hostility towards Earth in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/757 "2019-02-28T23:36:38Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Meaning what? > [@SenorBeef](#): > > He’s saying they set a precedent where Kaylons can be remotely deactivated, which they could then use to shut down all the Kaylons involved in the hostility towards Earth in some way. Also known as telling the Borg to go to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/758 "2019-03-01T01:42:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Meaning what? Author Chekov said about plays, “Remove everything that has no relevance to the story. If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off. If it’s not going to be fired, it shouldn’t be hanging there.” They spent expensive screen time showing Issac deactivated, so that will be seen again in the next episode. All the bad guys will be shut down, or Issac will be deactivated again. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/759 "2019-03-01T02:22:24Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > We already have. Not between Finn and Isaac. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/760 "2019-03-01T02:30:23Z")
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