# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/941 "2019-03-12T15:39:51Z")
Pretty good episode, I thought, although I figured out right away that Malloy was scamming his buddy in agreeing to steal a shuttle in order to foil his eeeeevil plot. I agree with those who noticed the strong \*TNG \*vibe of this episode, in particular. It had some definite echoes of “The Wounded,” in which O’Brien has to confront his former captain, who’s out for revenge against the Cardassians: [The Wounded (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wounded_(episode)) I thought the First Officer, having just done a shot of alien booze, was going to be swaying a little and trying to conceal her intoxication from the admiral. A missed opportunity for a joke. Favorite line, when Malloy says Mercer is jealous of his friendship with the ex-Krill prisoner: “What is this, sixth grade?” > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Whoops; thanks for the correction. Too bad they didn’t follow on with a scene after the N2 had been replaced with helium; her yelling at the crew in a high, squeaky voice would have been a perfect bit of Macfarlanesque humor… That would’ve been funny, and not left us wondering what became of her. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > …So, what was in the container was a plasma plasma? In a scene that was cut from the episode, the officer responsible for plasma plasma handling on the \*Orville \*is revealed to be Major Major Major. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > I liked the episode, but the whole bit with Talla delaying the Krill diplomats was just dumb. That’s the kind of thing that kills peace treaties to begin with - there’s a reason that diplomatic immunity exists. Intentionally insulting the Krill representatives would pretty much wipe out any possibility of negotiations… Agreed. > [@Shoeless](#): > > After the Krill accused Orrin of destroying their ships with nothing but a shuttle, and a scan for weapons on the shuttle turned up negative, I told my wife “_she’s_ the weapon.” But I was thinking more like telekinetic power or something… Heh. I had the same thought. > [@Horatius](#): > > The scene pretty much writes itself. > Krill Officer: Before we can begin, there are just a few minor boarding regulations we must adhere to… > > **Focus shifts to background shot of a large Krill snapping on a rubber glove** > > End Scene. > Maybe we have someone exclaim, “That’s the _first_ step?” Love it! Turnabout is fair play, after all. Better still if the glove has… protrusions. No new episode this week, alas. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/942 "2019-03-12T15:46:12Z")
John Fleck, who played the leader of the Krill delegation, has a long list of _ST_ appearances: [John Fleck | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/John_Fleck) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/943 "2019-03-12T16:08:47Z")
What bugged me most about the “stall them” sequence is that Mercer invited them over in the first place. The problem was of his own creation. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/944 "2019-03-12T16:13:37Z")
In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/945 "2019-03-12T16:17:18Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace. Jammer’s still around!?! Great news! I loved his reviews of DS9 and Voyager - will have to look up his Orville writing. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/946 "2019-03-12T16:20:33Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace. It would actually be pretty cool if she turned out to be a hardliner who opposes the peace process. It would be a nice reversal of the white savior trope that they’re setting up. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/947 "2019-03-12T17:06:47Z")
> [@simster](#): > > > [@Misnomer](#): > > > > When Talla suggested the Krill go behind the pile of boxes to provide the urine samples, I was SO expecting a “pee corner” reference. I can’t decide if I’m disappointed that there wasn’t one. > > That _was_ the reference. Sorry, I should have been more specific: I was expecting the words “pee corner” to actually come out of her mouth. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/948 "2019-03-12T17:41:34Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Jammer’s still around!?! Great news! I loved his reviews of DS9 and Voyager - will have to look up his Orville writing. Yeah, people still comment on those old reviews too! (I am SlackerInc there too, just like here and on Twitter.) ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/949 "2019-03-12T22:22:50Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > After the Krill accused Orrin of destroying their ships with nothing but a shuttle, and a scan for weapons on the shuttle turned up negative, I told my wife “_she’s_ the weapon.” But I was thinking more like telekinetic power or something. I thought she was some sort of secret alien disguising herself as a human, until they showed the needle marks on her arm with human red blood spots around them, so I ruled that out. Then later it was revealed that she did, in fact, have different (yellow) blood. Not sure why the needle marks didn’t reflect that. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/950 "2019-03-12T23:11:05Z")
I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/951 "2019-03-12T23:14:32Z")
Leads to less questioning about her past, and if she gives an impression of being almost feral people will tiptoe around her and not demand medical screenings as hard and such. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/952 "2019-03-12T23:26:05Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak. Probably to garner sympathy. No one would press to do a med scan on a traumatized “little girl”. They’d cut her a lot of slack, which to her means they are stupid and let her operate freely. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/953 "2019-03-13T00:11:02Z")
I really liked Scott Grimes in the last episode. Malloy is often a goofy comic-relief character, but here he had some pretty weighty stuff to deal with, and Grimes pulled it off well. It kind of reminded me of his stint on _ER_, when he went from a semi-competent, insecure med student who was the butt of many jokes, to chief resident within two seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/954 "2019-03-13T00:16:09Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Leads to less questioning about her past, and if she gives an impression of being almost feral people will tiptoe around her and not demand medical screenings as hard and such. If you can’t talk, you’re not going to screw up and say something that doesn’t fit the story. > [@Wheelz](#): > > I really liked Scott Grimes in the last episode. Malloy is often a goofy comic-relief character, but here he had some pretty weighty stuff to deal with, and Grimes pulled it off well. > > It kind of reminded me of his stint on _ER_, when he went from a semi-competent, insecure med student who was the butt of many jokes, to chief resident within two seasons. He set the tone! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNcU8EZyeE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNcU8EZyeE) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/955 "2019-03-13T00:45:14Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak. She had to pretend to be Orin’s traumatized daughter. I imagine there’s fewer questions if you can’t speak. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/956 "2019-03-13T01:52:26Z")
So do we think that knife could even cut through Alara’s skin? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/957 "2019-03-13T01:56:42Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak. She didn’t want to have to answer questions about being whats-his-name daughter. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/958 "2019-03-13T01:57:42Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > So do we think that knife could even cut through Alara’s skin? Why not? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/959 "2019-03-13T02:32:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Why not? She has super strength, and recovered from a normally killing blow from a phaser (or whatever they call them) without any visible wounds. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/960 "2019-03-13T04:52:35Z")
That weapon was set on stun. We’ve seen them used to stun and not kill before. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=49)