# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1141 "2019-04-09T23:34:00Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > **StarvingButStrong** , that’s a great idea! It wouldn’t work for people who live outside major metro areas, but it would be awesome for those who do. With fast communications it could work just fine. Network all the suites together and people in different holosuites could still all get together. In one suite they’d be real. In the others they’d be controlling their holographic representation by their real actions. The big limit in that case would be the number of suites in less populous areas. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1142 "2019-04-10T00:25:32Z")
I just meant the part about socializing with people you could build RL relationships with. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1143 "2019-04-10T01:07:44Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I just meant the part about socializing with people you could build RL relationships with. If the holographic representation of the person is indistinguishable from the real person, what difference would it make? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1144 "2019-04-10T02:38:28Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > If the holographic representation of the person is indistinguishable from the real person, what difference would it make? They can’t come home with you. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1145 "2019-04-10T13:49:40Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > They can’t come home with you. Turn the holospace into your home. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1146 "2019-04-11T05:53:17Z")
I thought we were talking about holosuites (Trek) or the simulator (Orville)? You presumably have to take turns using it and can’t just use it indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1147 "2019-04-11T06:50:52Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I thought we were talking about holosuites (Trek) or the simulator (Orville)? You presumably have to take turns using it and can’t just use it indefinitely. “Hey, don’t Bogart that simulator, man.” ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1148 "2019-04-11T08:59:37Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1149 "2019-04-11T11:21:59Z")
Holospaces presumably use lots of energy, so simply living in one is probably impractical. Maybe it’s not relevant when you have one or two drawing energy from MacGuffin-powered warp cores on a starship, but moreso if you want to have one in every home. Or one \*as \*every home. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1150 "2019-04-11T13:14:27Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I thought we were talking about holosuites (Trek) or the simulator (Orville)? You presumably have to take turns using it and can’t just use it indefinitely. Sure, rent one to set up a date. You could travel anywhere, and then go back to your home. The person doesn’t need to physically be there “in the real world” since the holographic representation is indistinguishable from a real person. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1151 "2019-04-11T14:17:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Holospaces presumably use lots of energy, so simply living in one is probably impractical. Maybe it’s not relevant when you have one or two drawing energy from MacGuffin-powered warp cores on a starship, but moreso if you want to have one in every home. Or one \*as \*every home. In the early seasons of _Voyager_ that was A Thing. Holodeck access was a limited resource. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1152 "2019-04-12T06:03:41Z")
Cool to see Marina Sirtis guest starring as the teacher tonight. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1153 "2019-04-12T07:01:39Z")
I normally don’t like stunt casting that much, but all the Star Trek actors making appearances is pretty nice. I just want them to be original characters, not nudge nudge wink wink repisals of their Star Trek roles. That goes too far into cheesy fan service. My dream Trek casting is Michael Dorn as Bortus’ father. There are like 8 ways they could go with that, and they’d all be great. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1154 "2019-04-12T11:04:11Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Cool to see Marina Sirtis guest starring as the teacher tonight. Also, the episode was directed by Jonathan Frakes. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1155 "2019-04-12T12:27:58Z")
I was kind of hoping that the renegade female colonists would turn out to be bigger badasses with better weapons than the main Moclan from the battle cruiser. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1156 "2019-04-12T13:18:04Z")
Are we supposed to think the female Moclans can have children by themselves, too? OTOH, the two (presumably male) parents of the infant girl are on that planet, too, and you’d have to think that other males also came with the girls they are trying to protect. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1157 "2019-04-12T14:35:42Z")
Yeah, they were vague about that. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I was kind of hoping that the renegade female colonists would turn out to be bigger badasses with better weapons than the main Moclan from the battle cruiser. After the aggressive way they greeted the landing party, it was disappointing to see them acting so helpless when the Moclan security forces came. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1158 "2019-04-12T14:53:44Z")
I really liked this episode, and I believe we started discussing this exact scenario ever since the whole “females are forcibly converted to males” episode way back in season 1 - the Union is called upon to defend the rights of female Moclans, but the Moclans are the most militarily formidable members of the Union and cannot be summarily dismissed, even by a majority of the Union. I thought the Bortus/Klyden/Topa scenes were the most interesting parts of the episode - Bortus examines and admires the differences between Moclus and the rest of the Union, but Klyden resents and loathes them. And now we know what Klyden does all day - sits in the cabin being annoyed about all the females on the ship. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1159 "2019-04-12T14:59:00Z")
Did it \*have \*to be Dolly Parton? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/1160 "2019-04-12T15:08:20Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Are we supposed to think the female Moclans can have children by themselves, too? > > OTOH, the two (presumably male) parents of the infant girl are on that planet, too, and you’d have to think that other males also came with the girls they are trying to protect. Especially since we’ve seen that there are Moclans who are attracted to females, the planet would seem a natural home for them. But I’m as willing to believe that two females could have children as I am that two males could. (In fact, the children produced by two females would invariably be female themselves, so there’s that.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=59)