# The Orville Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966 "2018-12-31T06:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/121 "2019-01-07T13:26:00Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > I agree, Bortus pisses and Bortus gets kinky. What’s next > ? Bortus flings poo? Bortus has an identical twin who is an internet troll. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/122 "2019-01-07T13:42:53Z")
What?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/123 "2019-01-07T15:33:10Z")
I hope the \*Orville \*screenwriters aren’t following this thread. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/124 "2019-01-08T15:32:06Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > At the beginning when Bortus asked to leave early because he didn’t feel well, and then Ed and Kelly said it was his third time that week, Dr. Finn was standing _right there_! I fully expected her to go after him down the hallway. But no, she stood there looking stupid. ??? That bugged me too. I also expected Klyden to go to the captain to complain about all of Bortus’ long hours, only for Ed to go, “Wait a second…” TNG touched on holodeck addiction with the Barclay episode, and even Geordi admitted to falling in love with a holo-Leah Brahams. Bortus bugs me. I’m sure it’s not the actor, but if they’re trying to set him up as some sort of Klingon they are failing badly. ISAAC has more emotional range than Bortus. Worf had humor, anger, tenderness, even romance. Bortus is being portrayed as a wooden spoon. And as captain I would be pissed that his holodeck shenanegins meant they couldn’t save all the people on the planet. That to me warrants at least a reduction in rank. Not a “Oh, I’m pissed but you’re so brave to do what I ordered you to do, even though you saved less than half of the people we could have.” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/125 "2019-01-08T22:40:24Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > That bugged me too. I also expected Klyden to go to the captain to complain about all of Bortus’ long hours, only for Ed to go, “Wait a second…” That’s how I was expecting it to come out, too. And, yes, there really needed to be SOME punishment for Bortus. Maybe not a reduction in rank, so they don’t need to change the cast by replacing him, but…_something_. Aside from those two points, and the porn segments going on too long (the prison and doctor ones, specifically) - and, hey, if they cut those back, they could have had a minute or two extra to spend on the rescue - I liked this one well enough. It was an important move in Bortus and Klyden’s relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/126 "2019-01-09T01:54:46Z")
So hey, _apropos_ of nothing, I found a link that suggests that _The Orville_ is already green-lit for season 3. > **[Why Seth MacFarlane's The Orville May Get An Early Season 3 Renewal](https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2463312/why-seth-macfarlanes-the-orville-may-get-an-early-season-3-renewal)** > > Season 2 of The Orville hasn't even premiered yet, but there are already reasons to be optimistic about Season 3. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/127 "2019-01-10T20:55:19Z")
Odd to hear Bortus describing the sexual urge as primal, “like a baby seeking its mother’s teat.” Isn’t his species (mostly) male and oviparous? That struck me as kind of jarring, is “motherhood” (let alone mammalian suckling) a concept he would use for a simile? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/128 "2019-01-10T20:57:39Z")
The show is off to a poor start for season 2. So many things were just wrong with that episode and the 1st one was OK but a no action episode. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/129 "2019-01-10T21:23:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Odd to hear Bortus describing the sexual urge as primal, “like a baby seeking its mother’s teat.” Isn’t his species (mostly) male and oviparous? That struck me as kind of jarring, is “motherhood” (let alone mammalian suckling) a concept he would use for a simile? Perhaps it is a translation from his language to Union Basic or whatever they speak. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/130 "2019-01-10T23:00:04Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Odd to hear Bortus describing the sexual urge as primal, “like a baby seeking its mother’s teat.” Isn’t his species (mostly) male and oviparous? That struck me as kind of jarring, is “motherhood” (let alone mammalian suckling) a concept he would use for a simile? Milk production predates live birth in mammals, as proved by the egg-laying, milk-producing (but nipple-less) monotremes. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/131 "2019-01-10T23:29:38Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Milk production predates live birth in mammals, as proved by the egg-laying, milk-producing (but nipple-less) monotremes. Not surprising to hear him reference milk; the question is why would he reference a mother? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/132 "2019-01-10T23:42:14Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Not surprising to hear him reference milk; the question is why would he reference a mother Shut your mouth! ---
**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/133 "2019-01-10T23:44:36Z")
Jus’ talkin’ 'bout Bortus ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/134 "2019-01-11T03:55:01Z")
the preceding two post are just an example of why I love this place. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/135 "2019-01-11T05:14:22Z")
great - now who’s gonna open it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/136 "2019-01-11T05:22:23Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > I like how it developed that Bortus’ dive into pornography resulted from his repressed resentment of Klyden’s decision to allow their child to be re-gendered. Well, that’s what Bortus _says_ pushed him to porn, but it sounded kinda contrived to me. I could see him harboring a resentment for Klyden and it may lead to “divorce” (with extreme prejudice) at some stage, but it’s awfully convenient to blame someone else when you get caught doing something embarrassing, even if the connection is a tad tenuous. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/137 "2019-01-11T05:54:03Z")
Hm. Didn’t see that coming. At least she didn’t do a full Tasha Yar. Also, I liked the episode, but it should have been “You need to readjust to higher gravity…so we are turning up the artificial gravity in your quarters.” (Roll credits.) Are we going to get a new Seinfeld actor per episode this season? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/138 "2019-01-11T06:21:45Z")
I liked the episode overall. I wish they at least attempted to explain why they couldn’t just change the gravity for her to begin with. Even if not her quarters they literally have shuttles on board with their own gravity control. Sorry you are going to have to spend a few hours a day chilling in a shuttle. It sucks they spent an episode on character development for a character they are booting. I don’t think i’m going to like Patrick Warburton’s character. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/139 "2019-01-11T08:04:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Are we going to get a new Seinfeld actor per episode this season? I suspect more people know Warburton as Joe Swanson than Puddy, so his pre-existing connection to MacFarlane is what would have got him. Also, mentioning guest stars and not the fact that both the Xelarian fathers were doctors on Star Trek? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966/140 "2019-01-11T11:55:28Z")
Anyone know why the actor is leaving? It seems unlikely to me that the writers would just decide to write her out of the show. I’m guessing either she wanted out, maybe to pursue other things, or contract negotiations failed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-2/826966.md?page=8)