# The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [February 5, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946 "2022-02-05T03:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/241 "2022-07-27T00:47:26Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Great to have Klyden return, admit he was wrong and be forgiven by Tapa Topa may forgive Klyden but does that repair the relationship between Bortus and Klyden? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/242 "2022-07-27T01:24:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > It also bugs me that passengers in the shuttle almost always stand right behind the pilot and copilot while the shuttle is in motion. An abrupt stop or sharp maneuver, and they could really get hurt. This is clearly for TV purposes to get everyone into a nice tableau for the camera. Complaining about this is like complaining about people not saying “hello” or “goodbye” in telephone calls, or never being shown using toothpaste or not rinsing after brushing their teeth. It’s for television; realism is a secondary consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/243 "2022-07-27T01:27:04Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I also just don’t buy, even as a joke, that an alien culture several hundred years from now would so idolize her. Yeah, I hate it when sci-fi characters are shown having interests firmly rooted in our own time, like Cmdr. Riker and jazz music or Capt. Picard and Sherlock Holmes or Capt. Sisko and baseball. Come up with a fictional future culture for the characters to be interested in. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/244 "2022-07-27T01:39:38Z")
I think that may just be so the audience can relate. (And I can imagine that jazz music, baseball and Sherlock Holmes will remain relevant centuries from now. Dolly Parton, on the other hand . . .) Edited to add, we listen to music composed 200 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/245 "2022-07-27T11:31:48Z")
I always felt TNG did Music and literature well. People have liked classical music for hundreds of years it seems natural they would still in hundreds of years from now. Jazz feels like it has the same longevity. Music with lyrics ages much worse and I would expect 99% of it to be forgotten in the 24th Century. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/246 "2022-07-27T11:32:59Z")
To me, it just seems like an author insert. I already know that huge numbers of real, contemporary people like these things. I don’t need my science fiction spending valuable story time on people liking these same things. Even worse, the way Next Gen did it in the case of Picard, Riker, and Sisko, it always came off cheezy and cringy, and it definitely did in the case of Dolly Parton in this episode. Star Trek always did Shakespeare well, though. And Melville. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/247 "2022-07-27T13:55:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I like Dolly Parton, but thought her appearance was… cringeworthy. [snip] and she’s had so much plastic surgery (I presume) that it was distracting. I felt the same way. Whatever she had done is miles ahead of the usual Hollywood plastic surgery travesties, but seeing a woman of any age with absolutely no lines on her face teeters at the edge of the uncanny valley. Still, it’s Dolly Parton. She can do whatever she wants — and she always has. > [@](#): > > I also just don’t buy, even as a joke, that an alien culture several hundred years from now would so idolize her. In general I agree with you — and the other posters here — that having people in the future enjoy 20th- and 21st-century entertainment has become ridiculous and annoying. That said, it’s been established that Mercer likes that crap, so it’s believable that he played some for Haveena. And it’s not the entire culture that idolizes Parton, it’s just Haveena. So as much as I hate the trope, I’m willing to give this one a pass. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/248 "2022-07-27T14:41:06Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > And it’s not the entire culture that idolizes Parton, it’s just Haveena. We do see the women and girls of the colony dancing to an instrumental version of _[Gay Dean](https://youtube.com/watch?v=BTe2773N9U8)_. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/249 "2022-07-27T14:58:08Z")
Since Haveena is their founder and leader it makes that they follow her lead in cultural tastes. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/250 "2022-07-27T17:25:11Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > We do see the women and girls of the colony dancing to an instrumental version of _[Gay Dean](https://youtube.com/watch?v=BTe2773N9U8)_. Meh. It was Wednesday. On Wednesday they dance to Haveena’s mix tape. P.S. Thank you for reminding me of “Gay Dean”! I love it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/251 "2022-07-27T20:01:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Staggerlee](#): > > > > It turned out that Isaac’s ‘research’ into human/Union behaviour was actually to ascertain whether they were candidates for genocide (he was deactivated once they reached their decision). > > I asked before, but remind me, did Isaac personally kill anyone? I seem to recall he went along with the Alpha Kaylon who came aboard the _Orville_ for awhile, even after the top droid got all murdery. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/252 "2022-07-27T20:35:37Z")
I’m pretty sure Isaac didn’t actually kill anyone himself - he did quite enough damage by basically triggering the war via his research/espionage. I would rewatch the episodes to check, but the Orville is really just my guilty pleasure. I don’t like Star Trek, and don’t like middle-of-the-road sitcoms; I’m just slightly too invested to stop watching. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/253 "2022-07-28T07:11:08Z")
I had a hard time swallowing a lot of 3x09. The Union was willing to team up with the Kaylon in war against the Krill and Moclans to rescue the only weapon holding the Kaylon back? To send several dozen warships, losing a lot of people? Really? It is one thing not to pull the trigger on the “kill 'em all” device, but if it gets stolen from you and used by a third party, I think you could do the moral gymnastics just fine to convince yourself that wiping out all the killbots wasn’t _your_ fault. I kept hoping that the episode would go dark and have the device end up being used successful despite attempts to stop it, everybody Feels Really Bad About It, and they move on. (And what a waste of a perfectly good Ted Danson.) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/254 "2022-07-28T15:24:35Z")
I’m only 45 minutes in and stopped out of boredom more than anything else. Half an hour more to plod through? I hope it picks up. I don’t mind all the things that don’t make sense or are just dumb if the ride is exciting enough that I’m too distracted to think about them. This is not that ride. Hoping when I gird myself up for the last half hour tomorrow sometime it picks up some! ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/255 "2022-07-28T16:17:44Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I also just don’t buy, even as a joke, that an alien culture several hundred years from now would so idolize her. It’s been a running joke throughout the series that Ed likes American “classical music” which is our current pop music. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/256 "2022-07-28T17:27:40Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Yeah, I hate it when sci-fi characters are shown having interests firmly rooted in our own time, like Cmdr. Riker and jazz music or Capt. Picard and Sherlock Holmes or Capt. Sisko and baseball. Come up with a fictional future culture for the characters to be interested in. What do you think of Picard reenacting the truly fictional detective Dixon Hill on the holo deck? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/257 "2022-07-28T17:33:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The _Orville_ crew keep leaving their shuttles open to the elements (and intruders) when they land. They did it once and a Kaylon got in and surprised them, and they did it again when they landed on the Moclan women’s colony, allowing its sabotage. Dumb. The moclan weapons industry includes high tech [lock out tools](https://atdtools.com/4972). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/258 "2022-07-28T18:31:09Z")
Ha! But even if they didn’t have that, we could _see_ Kelly and Bortus leave the back of the shuttle open. Just dumb. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/259 "2022-07-28T19:13:41Z")
Bortus forgot to punch the button on the key, or thought that the “beep beep” on the horn would attract bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/260 "2022-07-28T20:21:54Z")
BTW, have I mentioned that I love those Kaylon ships? The Kaylon remind me of the TOS:BSG Cylons. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946.md?page=14)