# The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [February 5, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946 "2022-02-05T03:04:54Z")\
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Remember Kelly herself became a deity in a civilization. She had a first hand knowledge of what one small act can change a planet.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/342 "2022-08-10T05:04:03Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I did find it curious that the Union has the equivalent of the Prime Directive and do not distribute technology, but they still have wars and devices that can kill an entire race, although I have trouble accepting the toasters as a race.

Just wait 26 years for the reboot. I’m sure the Kaylons will all be sexy women.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/343 "2022-08-10T10:54:21Z")

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Good point!

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/344 "2022-08-10T20:51:25Z")

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The Orville has docked at **Disney+** now. All 3 seasons.

Title updated to reflect.

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I imagine it’s harder to create excitement now that season 3 has ended, but hopefully with the greater reach of Disney+ more people will take the opportunity to check out the series. They really do put a lot more effort into storytelling and character development than a lot of other shows out there, including the various Star Trek incarnations. I’d take The Orville ten times out of ten even over Strange New Worlds.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/346 "2022-08-10T22:27:41Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> I imagine it’s harder to create excitement now that season 3 has ended, but hopefully with the greater reach of Disney+ more people will take the opportunity to check out the series.

Does that mean it won’t be on Hulu anymore? Or available on both. I’m not sure we even have Disney+

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/347 "2022-08-10T22:33:07Z")

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I suspect but don’t know for sure it will be on both.

I think Hulu will eventually be folded into Disney+.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/348 "2022-08-11T18:53:21Z")

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A pretty good end to S3, I’d say.

Loved seeing Gordon’s sandwich show up months later. Loved the contrast between the doctor’s raucous bachelorette party and Isaac’s very boring bachelor party (even though he was wearing a tie, and I smiled to see Bortus as Elvis). Could’ve done without the near-naked Moclain sex chase in the woods, though. Yikes.

Got a little annoyed with the indecisiveness of the girl from Planet Twitter. Stay aboard or go home? Jeez, just decide already and stick to it.

Cool to see the Union fleet’s white dress uniforms (also very similar to Starfleet’s, in the late _TNG_ era).

Ed’s remarks at the beginning of the wedding were very similar to Kirk’s, Picard’s and Adm. Ross’s in various _ST_ weddings over the years, about a captain’s privilege to conduct wedding ceremonies. And see: [RE: Are ships captains allowed to marry people at sea?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/re-are-ships-captains-allowed-to-marry-people-at-sea/588307/1)

Bortus’s deadpan “All kidding aside” wedding toast was truly cringeworthy, but Gordon (no surprise) then heartwarmingly rose to the occasion (hilarious that he’d earlier agreed, without hesitation, that he was more upset about Isaac turning to Bortus to give the toast, than he had been about the Kaylon invasion of Earth). And nice to see Alara again!

The Prime Directive has certainly been discussed quite a few times in the various incarnations of _ST_ over the years, but never as powerfully or viscerally, I’d say, as Kelly showing a world left in ruins after advanced tech was introduced by the Union and war - perhaps inevitably - broke out.

Best line, by LaMarr: “This is a goddamn weirdass place we work in, let me tell you.” And the Captain, looking pensive, just sipped his coffee for a (very funny) long time.

Here’s more on a possible S4: [Season 4 | The Orville Wiki | Fandom](https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Season_4)

TLDR: It’s possible, but the _Orville_’s exec producer insisted the show “is absolutely not cancelled. Absolutely not. That is definitive.”

I foresee, if there _is_ a next season (and I hope there will be), there’ll be an episode in which, kinda sorta like _TNG_’s “The Measure of a Man,” someone challenges the validity of a marriage between a machine and a flesh-and-blood person.

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I find the Moclans to be far less interesting than the writers do.

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I am admittedly curious about two guys producing a viable egg.

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Yeah. I’d argue that the Moclans are more properly considered a society of all females since bearing young (via egg or live birth) is pretty much the biological definition of being a female. Seahorses kinda upend that but the females still produce the eggs even if the father incubates them.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I’d argue that the Moclans are more properly considered a society of all females

I’ve argued that they’re really hermaphrodites. From what it seems, any pairing of Moclans can produce a viable egg, and it’s never been clear which one of the pair plays which role. And if there were a clear distinction, then they’d clearly be male and female.

And then there’s the issue that “females” are apparently born at least semi-regularly. It happens often enough that they have procedures already in place to “deal with it”.

What it looks like to me is that they have both male and female reproductive systems, but, due to long-standing social and evolutionary pressures, the “male” features tend to dominate, and so they perceive themselves as “male”. Every once in a while, though, a child is born that, due to genetic or environmental factors, has the female features as the more dominant trait.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/353 "2022-08-11T20:34:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The Prime Directive has certainly been discussed quite a few times in the various incarnations of _ST_ over the years, but never as powerfully or viscerally, I’d say, as Kelly showing a world left in ruins after advanced tech was introduced by the Union and war - perhaps inevitably - broke out.

Yes, I agree. Star Trek has gone to great lengths to talk about the Prime Directive and show it in use, primarily as a source of conflict. As it should be; it’s the **Prime** Directive for a reason. But while they’ve shown what can result from breaking the Prime Directive (I mentioned a few examples in this thread) those were not innocuous, but were intentionally disruptive. Deliberately guiding a society to become Nazis is not a benign act the way that it would be to give them the means to create replicators. And they showed the society in complete ruins.

> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I find the Moclans to be far less interesting than the writers do.

As a species and culture they’re pretty boring. I do like individual members though. Bortus is my favorite series character by far, and his interactions with Klyden are gold. And I think some of their best stories revolved around their daughter. But the Moclan world itself is kind of dull. I find the Krill and Kaylons far more interesting.

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> Still, it’s Dolly Parton. She can do whatever she wants — and she always has.

As she has said in the past. “It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!”

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Reading that I hear it in her voice.

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Does that mean it won’t be on Hulu anymore? Or available on both. I’m not sure we even have Disney+

Hulu and Disney+ I believe. It will help increase the exposure as there are tons more Disney+ subscribers I would think. If it gets enough eyeballs, then Disney may be moved.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Could’ve done without the near-naked Moclain sex chase in the woods, though. Yikes.

It could’ve been worse; I was half expecting them to actually mate in front of the guests.

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^ Double yikes!

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> …Bortus is my favorite series character by far, and his interactions with Klyden are gold…

Yes. By far the best so far IMHO was when they discovered tobacco and were sitting in their quarters, their mouths stuffed with cigarettes, blissfully lost in a cloud of smoke.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > …Bortus is my favorite series character by far, and his interactions with Klyden are gold…
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> Yes. By far the best so far IMHO was when they discovered tobacco and were sitting in their quarters, their mouths stuffed with cigarettes, blissfully lost in a cloud of smoke.

“YOU WILL BE SILENT!!”

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All kidding aside, that was a great moment

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