# The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [February 5, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946 "2022-02-05T03:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/361 "2022-08-14T15:52:47Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > Could’ve done without the near-naked Moclain sex chase in the woods, though. Yikes. > > It could’ve been worse; I was half expecting them to actually mate in front of the guests. How do you know that they weren’t mating? They could have their genitals in their heads, like [some fish](https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22023-zoologger-the-fish-with-its-genitals-on-its-head/). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/362 "2022-08-14T18:36:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > How do you know that they weren’t mating? They could have their genitals in their heads, like [some fish](https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22023-zoologger-the-fish-with-its-genitals-on-its-head/) I’m thinking cloaca as lizards and birds. What fish has reproductive organs on the head? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/363 "2022-08-15T05:02:40Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What fish has reproductive organs on the head? Click on the words “some fish” in the text of the message you replied to. The poster helpfully provided a link that already answered your question. I’m a little surprised you missed that. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/364 "2022-08-20T19:10:23Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > > What do you think of Picard reenacting the truly fictional detective Dixon Hill on the holo deck? > > It’s just a pastiche on another 20th century trope, so in my view, no different than the others. And, here we go … the routine obsession of Trek characters with contemporary culture has opened up the storyline that the Federation _has no culture of its own_ … ugh … > **[Star Trek's Q Confirmed a Dark Franchise Fan Theory](https://screenrant.com/star-trek-q-confirms-dark-theory-federation-stagnates/)** > > Is Star Trek's Federation a stagnant society? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/365 "2022-08-20T20:36:14Z")
I liked how Babylon 5 made certain to include contemporary entertainment of its day. I’m looking at you, Rebo and Zooty! “Zoot zoot zoot!” ---
**Author:** ![Mars\_Horizon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mars_horizon/32/2804_2.png) [@Mars\_Horizon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mars_Horizon)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/366 "2022-08-21T02:16:56Z")
Eh, that was just Penn and Teller 😉 ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/367 "2022-08-21T02:51:54Z")
You don’t like Reebo and Zooty? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/368 "2022-08-21T17:06:29Z")
They make as much sense as the Winchester Mystery House ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/369 "2022-08-21T17:42:59Z")
That’s your backwards 21st century thinking. If you lived in the 23rd century, you’d totally get it. All joking aside, that’s why a lot of these speculative shows don’t show contemporary pop culture. Because people today wouldn’t get it. If you created a play in the 19th century full of pop culture references from today, people back then wouldn’t get it either. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/370 "2022-08-21T18:19:16Z")
The Winchester house wascthe other thing (besides R&Z) that Londo didn’t understand (ironically in the case of the House since Mollari should understand the guilt that led to the House). ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/371 "2022-08-21T18:23:01Z")
Episode 9 of season 3 was great maybe their best. Interesting they killed off Ted Danson’s Admiral and the new Ensign Mary Sue. I didn’t expect that. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/372 "2022-08-24T10:38:22Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Interesting they killed off Ted Danson’s Admiral and the new Ensign Mary Sue. I didn’t expect that. Ensign Mary Sue was apparently some Westley-Crusher-level genius that could ‘think in 4 dimensions’ and helped build a weapon that could kill ALL the Kaylon. It made no sense for her to be running around on away missions and blowing herself up. She should have been working in a secret weapons lab with her own team of guards to protect her until The Traveler came to take her away. There was a lot about that season that put me off. > [@E-DUB](#): > > You don’t like Reebo and Zooty? EVERYONE likes Reebo and Zooty! They transcend race, language and culture. They’re beloved on every planet! Someone needs to bring Babylon 5’s special effects up to 16:9 spec, release it with some fanfare, and stream the episodes. They’d have 5 seasons (well, roughly 4 good ones) of quality sci-fi that will play as good today as it did back then. And I’m willing to bet there’s a LOT of people who haven’t seen it - Hell, it’s over 25 years old, so there’s a lot of people right there. Also, they’re LONG seasons, so it would be like having ten seasons of today’s short-season TV. Bezos should do it, he could afford it out-of-pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/373 "2022-08-24T14:12:32Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Ensign Mary Sue was apparently some Westley-Crusher-level genius that could ‘think in 4 dimensions’ and helped build a weapon that could kill ALL the Kaylon. I got the impression that she wasn’t unique but of course not common either (the Captain mentioned it, but seemed to imply that it was something that people knew existed). Whatever ‘think in 4-dimensions’ means, it seems like a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/374 "2022-08-24T15:50:23Z")
Reposted from the “series recently watched” thread: > [@Series you've recently watched, are now watching or have given up on](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1653): > > **The Orville: New Horizons** - S3 was a definite improvement over the previous two seasons overall; they’ve kept just enough comedy to keep it fun while getting rid of the “We must appeal to the _Family Guy_ audience” bullshit that really dragged the previous seasons down. All ten episodes were reasonably solid and the stories moved at a decent pace. Also, I haven’t checked the rest of the internet but I’m pretty sure I spotted a goodly number of nods to _Star Wars_ along the way. > > Downsides: Apart from the soapboxing (a habit it shares with _Star Trek_), there were a couple of actors who still are quite wooden, several scenes ended with characters silently staring at each other because the writers clearly didn’t know how to finish the scene, and much as I like Scott Grimes there is a limit to the number of cheesy songs I want to hear him sing and this season blew past that limit quickly. > > Still a lot better than _ST: Discovery_ though. To elaborate: J Lee still hasn’t learned how to say his lines in a normal human fashion, although he’s certainly improved from previous seasons and they’re actually giving him a lot better material. The other distractingly inadequate actor was Anne “Grr! I am a one-dimensional angry woman apart from one scene where I inexplicably relax and smile and sing and then go back to being angry!” Winters. Some of that _was_ the fault of the writers but tbh I was happy to see her go. I mean, I get her character arc, but that was pretty much all there was of her, apart from her unexplained magic power. And before we started watching the last episode I turned to the spouse and said “I bet we see the sandwich again”. Nailed that one. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/375 "2022-08-24T18:34:55Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > …Someone needs to bring Babylon 5’s special effects up to 16:9 spec, release it with some fanfare, and stream the episodes. They’d have 5 seasons (well, roughly 4 good ones) of quality sci-fi that will play as good today as it did back then. And I’m willing to bet there’s a LOT of people who haven’t seen it - Hell, it’s over 25 years old, so there’s a lot of people right there. Also, they’re LONG seasons, so it would be like having ten seasons of today’s short-season TV. Bezos should do it, he could afford it out-of-pocket. Ooo, good idea! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/376 "2022-08-28T09:03:16Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Whatever ‘think in 4-dimensions’ means, it seems like a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot. WAS a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/377 "2022-08-28T18:10:23Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > WAS a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot. As the ship apparently most likely to be assigned (and at least initially screw up) important missions, I imagine they’d be high on the list for a 4D replacement (although I also imagine that, like a lot of Star Trek tech, 4D thinking will never be mentioned again). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/378 "2022-08-28T18:52:33Z")
Four dimensions I should believe would be the X,Y, Z axes and time. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/379 "2022-09-04T18:05:48Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > It made no sense for her to be running around on away missions and blowing herself up. Her rare skill was what they needed to succeed in those away missions. That’s why she was on the mission that was her last. Nobody else in the crew could have done it. The whole point of the Union Fleet (as with Star Fleet in Star Trek) is that some of the “best and brightest” in the galaxy aren’t content to stay in a lab/workshop/whatever, they want to be out there actively using their talents in ways that keep everyone safe and make discoveries. Ensign Burke saved countless people (and Kaylons) because she didn’t want to sit in a lab. This is a core tenet of Star Trek/Orville. It’s why bridge officers and even captains go on away missions and they don’t just send cannon fodder to scout and get melted by acid monsters. It would be difficult to be a fan of these shows if that bothers you. It would be like disliking the whole idea of the Force and watching Star Wars movies. You’re just going to frustrate yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/380 "2022-09-04T21:42:21Z")
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