# The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [February 5, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946 "2022-02-05T03:04:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/101 "2022-06-27T12:52:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m not sure anyone does Guys. ED HAD A BABY WITH A KRILL. It’s ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/102 "2022-06-27T12:55:51Z")
That’s consistent with Star Trek, in which species from various planets are also able to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/103 "2022-06-27T13:18:40Z")
Spock was half human for crying out loud. No sharks have been jumped. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/104 "2022-06-27T13:21:28Z")
This of course means that Ed has been a Krill this entire time!!! ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/105 "2022-06-27T13:47:01Z")
Yup. The Trekiverse is chock full of “half-breed” hybrids usually subjected to prejudice; of course The Orville’s universe would have that as the same racial metaphor. And Krill apparently think birth control is against the will of Avis. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/106 "2022-06-27T19:44:08Z")
Technically the Krill had a baby with Ed. Can’t help wondering how they square that with the “only Krill have souls” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/107 "2022-06-27T21:21:43Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > A little bit of humor back. I thought the Krill delegation talking about the harrowing propechy of the orphan in regards to Annie was pretty funny. They’re underusing Bortus so much this season and I don’t understand it - by far the funniest character. Yeah, I loved the interpretation of “Annie” (though I think they dropped the ball a little when Teleya used “light” in a positive way while talking to Ed. > [@Atamasama](#): > > Spock was half human for crying out loud. At least in the case of Spock, one can imagine that the production of a half-Vulcan/half-human child took medical assistance (since the child was desired) - Teleya and Ed are apparently as fertile together as a young human couple, with no need for medical help ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/108 "2022-06-27T21:24:56Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Teleya and Ed are apparently as fertile together as a young human couple, with no need for medical help I can’t help but think that the “transcellular micrographing” procedure that made Teleya physically human while she was with Ed might have played a part. But that’s just speculation. I’m not sure how much of her body was changed in that procedure; if it was all surface stuff or if it affected her internal physiology as well. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/109 "2022-06-27T21:31:49Z")
Ah. That makes a little sense - and a brief reference to it in the script would have been nice. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/110 "2022-06-27T22:42:14Z")
Again this is Trek inspired and hybrids are all over the place there. Troi was part human part Betazoid. Torres part Klingon part human. There have been Bajoran Cardassian mixes. It goes on. The mixed race individual and the reactions to them is a well worn Trek trope. Special help not required. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/111 "2022-06-27T23:22:50Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Torres part Klingon part human Worf’s Ladyworf was half human, too. And they had a son (1/4 human, 3/4 Klingon) so the mixed breeds aren’t even sterile mules. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/112 "2022-06-27T23:44:47Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > [re:episode 02] > Worse is the possibility that we really haven’t seen the end of these villains, now (despite no remaining physical structures of same mind left) in possession of an Admiral’s knowledge, codes, and such. One can only hope it’s a one off MOW! Agreed. I liked episode 2 better than 1, as there was a little more humor and less superfluous external shots. But they didn’t really think through how the monsters knowledge / consciousness should work. All the Orville crew acted as though retaining the admiral’s knowledge and will **and** now having a new personality and knowledge was not merely the most obvious option, but the _only_ option. When it should be _way_ down the list of possibilities. It was also slightly weird how little time and thought was given to trying to restore them to human, given that, again, everyone believes their human mind was still extant. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/113 "2022-06-28T02:58:21Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Technically the Krill had a baby with Ed. Can’t help wondering how they square that with the “only Krill have souls” thing. I imagine the Circle of Clerics would be _very_ unhappy with Teleya for forcing them to try and reconcile non-Krill are souless nonpersons with abortion is always wrong because Avis loves the little Krilldren? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/114 "2022-06-28T13:38:49Z")
On July 19, [Seth MacFarlane is releasing a digital novella](https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1540734568507904002) called _The Orville: Sympathy for the Devil_. It was originally intended as an episode for the current season, but Covid shutdowns prevented filming. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/115 "2022-06-28T20:15:06Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > > [@Mijin](#): > > > > I think the problem is that Seth has tried too hard to deal with serious issues here. For example, suicide seems a lot more serious than anything ST typically dealt with, and does not seem to me to be a parody of anything. > > There was a TNG episode where Worf was paralyzed and demanded Dr Crusher euthanize him… Yes, this was it: [Ethics (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ethics_(episode)) > [@E-DUB](#): > > I would also note that the episode was dedicated to Lisa Banes, who appeared in it and has passed away since. Also thought that casting Bruce Boxleitner as the President was a hilarious bit. Great googly moogly, I didn’t realize that was him!: [Alcuzan | The Orville Wiki | Fandom](https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Alcuzan?so=search) The Krill-election episode was clearly inspired by contemporary US politics - a populist/Trumpian candidate, confidential election predictions that don’t come true, deepfake political ads, subsequent upheaval in foreign affairs, violence as a political tool, etc. A little obvious at times, but I liked it. But yes, we _definitely_ need more Bortus… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/116 "2022-06-28T20:20:50Z")
Also, note that Lisa Banes died a little more than a year ago. So that episode has been in the can for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/117 "2022-06-30T07:40:15Z")
Apparently alien (and half-alien) children age in [soap-opera years](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome). 3x05 is a (well done) Very Special Episode, and clocks in at an hour and fifteen minutes. Remember when _The Orville_ was a comedy? … ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/118 "2022-06-30T11:21:55Z")
I think this latest episode is the best of the season so far. Seth MacFarlane has really grown as a writer/director. Also… While everyone did a great job, the guy who plays Klyden really deserves special credit for making him Joffrey Baratheon level hateable. At the end I was like _"Yesss! Hit the bricks, bitch!_ So satisfying 😄 ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/119 "2022-06-30T11:45:41Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Remember when _The Orville_ was a comedy? I never felt that it was really a comedy. In the thread for Season 1, I described it as “an attempt to recreate a show from the '90s with some additional jokes”. If they have reduced the level of the additional jokes to TNG levels, that makes the re-creation more accurate, not less. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/120 "2022-06-30T16:10:30Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I described it as “an attempt to recreate a show from the '90s with some additional jokes”. Now that I’ve been watching Strange New Worlds it’s notable to me how true Trek and The Orville have converged on overall feel and respect for their respective inspirations, despite The Orville’s weak start this season. And dang Bortus has some pipes! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946.md?page=7)