# The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [February 5, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946 "2022-02-05T03:04:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/141 "2022-07-08T18:51:53Z")

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We will see that sandwich again.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/142 "2022-07-09T02:21:29Z")

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So what was the point of Ed telling Gordon they’d just jump back 10 years? All that did was cause Gordon, his wife, and child emotional distress. Yes, Ed is himself a father and told _a child_ that he was never going to be born. That’s despicable. O  
As soon as they realized they could jump back another 10 years that should have been plan A, not plan B.

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I’m disappointed the Johnny Knoxville/Jack McBrayer version of “The Odd Couple” doesn’t actually exist

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/144 "2022-07-09T14:27:10Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> As soon as they realized they could jump back another 10 years that should have been plan A, not plan B.

Agreed! Isaac and Charly should have been sent off to mine the whatever-it-was they needed, and Ed and Kelly should never have even _tried_ to find Gordon in 2025.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/145 "2022-07-09T14:34:04Z")

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My understanding is that they were only able to make the second jump by using the stuff they mined.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/146 "2022-07-09T14:52:12Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I wonder about the car with the OVILLE plates. Likely that was the usual Hollywood made-up plates, but perhaps someone in the cast or crew really owned a car with those plates?

I dunno, but I went back to that shot and saw that the year on the registration tag was actually 2025. That’s some pretty good attention to detail.

On reflection, I’m fairly confident that the plate is a mock-up. Certain details that are currently on California plates are missing.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/147 "2022-07-09T14:56:41Z")

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Makes you wonder who had the “Orville” plate.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/148 "2022-07-09T15:07:46Z")

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Yeah. I suppose they might have wanted to reduce the risks of taking another trip by giving Malloy another chance to change his mind, but if that didn’t work, just leave.

The use of time dilation to get back to the present makes sense, but I had to wonder what Earth thought about the ship that had been headed toward them for 200 years, very slowly (by their FTL standards). I’d have checked that mystery ship out

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/149 "2022-07-09T15:48:54Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> So what was the point of Ed telling Gordon they’d just jump back 10 years? All that did was cause Gordon, his wife, and child emotional distress. Yes, Ed is himself a father and told _a child_ that he was never going to be born. That’s despicable. O  
> As soon as they realized they could jump back another 10 years that should have been plan A, not plan B.

For that matter, what was the point of even going to see Gordon in the first place? I’m pretty sure that Admirals Perry and Halsey, et al will have some questions when they make their report.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/150 "2022-07-09T16:40:33Z")

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Physics question. If a star is 200 light years away and they’re traveling at _almost_ the speed of light, shouldn’t it take them about 200 years to get there, regardless of how time is passing on Earth? Why “just a few minutes?”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/151 "2022-07-09T17:44:57Z")

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It was time dilaiton:

> **[Time dilation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation)**
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> In physics and relativity, time dilation is the difference in the elapsed time as measured by two clocks. It is either due to a relative velocity between them (special relativistic "kinetic" time dilation) or to a difference in gravitational potential between their locations (general relativistic gravitational time dilation). When unspecified, "time dilation" usually refers to the effect due to velocity.
> After compensating for varying signal delays due to the changing distance between an observe...

To the rest of the Universe, it was hundreds of years passing. To the people on the Orville, though, it was only a few minutes. One of the weirder bits of physics. A lot of people have a hard time with this, but if you look at the “Experimental testing” section on Wikipedia, you’ll see we’ve actually measured this in real life, just not at the extremes used in the show. If you look at the pop culture section, you’ll see it’s been used in other books and shows.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/152 "2022-07-09T18:17:24Z")

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My guess? Yet another Malloy from a different time line.

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Chekhov’s Sandwich.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/154 "2022-07-09T18:20:31Z")

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If Charley and Isaac had gone to a certain cave in San Francisco would they have found Data’s head?

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/155 "2022-07-09T18:24:44Z")

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Seth McFarland

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/156 "2022-07-09T19:23:33Z")

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They went and talked to him because he is their friend and they respect him. Going behind his back and snagging him from 2015 might be easier for them, just like never even telling him they did try to get him in 2025 and about the family he’d had there would be easier–but if you love and care for a person you give him the CHOICE and that requires full disclosure.

Besides, the timeline with the family is still going on AND his family knows that he intentionally left his old life, abandoned his career and friends and everything else he knew to stay with them and care for them. How many of us get THAT much proof that someone really loves us? I’d love to see how that timeline works out.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-season-3-now-on-disney-also/958946/157 "2022-07-10T06:26:11Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Physics question. If a star is 200 light years away and they’re traveling at _almost_ the speed of light, shouldn’t it take them about 200 years to get there, regardless of how time is passing on Earth? Why “just a few minutes?”

I believe that the closer you come to approaching the actual speed of light C, the greater the time dilation becomes.

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Makes you wonder who had the “Orville” plate.

I’m thinking maybe that was Seth’s car they used.

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I enjoyed the two most recent episodes. Loved Isaac calmly arm-wrestling at the biker bar. I thought the realtor stayed upstairs 'way too long, though, while the young ensign and Isaac were doing their drilling in the basement.

And I understand about being honest with your friends, but I think it would’ve been a kindness for Ed, Kelly and the others to agree never to tell Gordon about his wife and kids (for that matter, given what we know of his character, I think he was _much_ too easygoing about the revelation of the averted timeline, once he was told). How did they find him in the wilds of Connecticut when they returned, anyway? Scan for the energy signature of his beam weapon?

Talla and LaMarr look like they may have a thing goin’ on now… or was that just a one-time clinch in Engineering?

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Bortus yelling about the key being too high was straight up classic Orville. I laughed out loud at that bit.

It was funny… but mean, too. Wouldn’t they have rehearsed beforehand? I thought Bortus might’ve lost his audience right then, snapping like that at the doctor’s young son.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> …[SNW is] doing its best to be a believable prequel to the first show, and tries to make everything fit in properly. Not at all a reboot or alternate timeline…

Well… it looks so much better/different than _ST:TOS_ that I don’t see how it can’t be an alternate timeline. Unless they made everything look the same as Sixties-era TV (as they did so well for the _DS9_ “Tribbles” episode, for instance, with such retro charm), I think it has to be regarded as an AT.

> [@Staggerlee](#):
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> It turned out that Isaac’s ‘research’ into human/Union behaviour was actually to ascertain whether they were candidates for genocide (he was deactivated once they reached their decision).

Hmm. Remind me, did Isaac personally kill anyone? I seem to recall he went along with the Alpha Kaylon who came aboard the _Orville_ for awhile, even after the top droid got all murdery.

> [@Galactus](#):
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> …There should have been a scene at the end that said, “Three Months Later”, with Gordon eating a sandwich with a smile on his face.

> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> Chekhov’s Sandwich.

FTW, on two levels!

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well… it looks so much better/different than _ST:TOS_ that I don’t see how it can’t be an alternate timeline.

It doesn’t matter how it looks. That’s a function of RL technology, not a function of the story.

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