# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/441 "2017-09-21T02:37:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > _Sukhoi_ And the \*Mikoyan \*would be paired with the _Gurevich_. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/442 "2017-09-21T10:23:33Z")
Dammit! I see they already moved Orville to Thursday nights. Does this mean the show has one foot in the grave? Episode one had a couple of dull moments but episode two fucking rocked. I’m going to be pissed if this show doesn’t get a season 2! ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/443 "2017-09-21T10:29:55Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Dammit! I see they already moved Orville to Thursday nights. Does this mean the show has one foot in the grave? > > Episode one had a couple of dull moments but episode two fucking rocked. > > I’m going to be pissed if this show doesn’t get a season 2! That was always the plan from the start. By moving it to Thursday it won’t get delayed by that rugby with bubble wrap that you all like over there. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/444 "2017-09-21T10:32:15Z")
More ship names: [Rutan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Rutan) [Other Yeager](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeana_Yeager) [Piccard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard) [Other Piccard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Piccard) ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/445 "2017-09-21T10:37:59Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Dammit! I see they already moved Orville to Thursday nights. Does this mean the show has one foot in the grave? No, it was Fox’s intention to move it to Thursdays, all along, as its normal time slot. Doh! NINJA’D ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/446 "2017-09-21T19:05:50Z")
And it has robust viewership numbers so far. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/447 "2017-09-21T22:54:56Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > …Care to add any more? 🆒 _Eckener_ _Tereshkova_ _Ride_ _Yang_ ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/448 "2017-09-21T23:53:58Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It’s not like Star Trek didn’t have impossible growth. Look at Genesis. Extremely sped up growth on a barren planet with no actual resources for life. Heck, now that I think about it, maybe it was a reference to that. (jumping ahead to say) With Seth, EVERYTHING is a reference. That’s why he produces no drinking games: Death (voiced by Norm MacDonald) would stalk the land. So far I haven’t seen any gripes about the presence of Brannon Braga. Doesn’t the Dope renounce him and all his works? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/449 "2017-09-21T23:58:38Z")
So far it seems better than a typical Seth McFarlaine show. Also so far it seems crap loads better than the not yet debuted new Star Trek series (which looks like diarrhea in the previews) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/450 "2017-09-22T01:27:52Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > In point of fact, Orville IS following in TNG’s footsteps here. > > In the original series we got “The Naked Time” as the fourth episode, which had impact _because_ by then we knew about Vulcans and their logic and control of emotion and how much Spock’s sense of self was invested by his need to be VULCAN (in all caps.) > > So then we got TNG, and the SECOND episode was “The Naked Now” which had no real impact except for some amusing lines. We knew barely anything about the characters and weren’t invested in them yet. > > Either this episode was a deliberate homage to TNG screwing up that way… or they learned the wrong episode from TNG’s experience. I had a similar theory about drinking beer at nine in the morning. In the pilot, the Captain is pissed that his, uh, pilot is drinking a beer at nine in the morning. In the second episode, he gets in a fight with his ex about drinking a beer at nine in the morning, that’s apparently a long running argument between them. Bad continuity? Or a really, really subtle jab at Trek’s continuity problems, and the fans who obsess over them? ---
**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/451 "2017-09-22T02:07:26Z")
I don’t see it that way. Mercer is a prisoner in an alien zoo, 'course he’s gonna get drunk. Likewise when his marriage just failed, hence his problems getting accepted for promotion. But drinking while on a shuttle on your way to an awesome ship? That’s a little off. Look at this week’s episode – Kelly brings him a double tequila in the cafeteria. He isn’t knocking one back just before his debate with the Moclan captain. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/452 "2017-09-22T02:08:30Z")
3rd episode was entertaining, surprising ending. Nice that their deus ex machina find did not actually resolve the issue as the hoped. On Star Trek it surely would have. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/453 "2017-09-22T02:09:50Z")
So: The Moclins are homosexual rather than unisexual (if that’s the correct term), and they’re homosexual because they’re misogynistic. Interesting? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/454 "2017-09-22T02:33:38Z")
Oh, and What Exit, TNG went against expectations, at least mine, three times on who lives, who dies questions. (I’ll leave episode identification as an exercise for the reader.) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/455 "2017-09-22T02:39:29Z")
I liked how they changed Bortus’ mind. I also liked the holodeck scene. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/456 "2017-09-22T02:48:14Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Oh, and What Exit, TNG went against expectations, at least mine, three times on who lives, who dies questions. (I’ll leave episode identification as an exercise for the reader.) Oh, well to be fair, I’m really only a TOS & Galaxy Quest fan. I thought Next Gen was dull and angsty, Voyager and Enterprise were crap and garbage. Though DS9 wasn’t bad it lost me after a few seasons. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/457 "2017-09-22T02:49:53Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > So: The Moclins are homosexual rather than unisexual (if that’s the correct term), and they’re homosexual because they’re misogynistic. Interesting? :dubious: Hermaphroditic maybe? Since they can both lay eggs and fertilize them. I guess those born female can only lay eggs (at least until after the procedure). I wonder if any are born that are completely male and can’t lay eggs, and if so, do they surgically alter them? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/458 "2017-09-22T02:49:58Z")
Definitely the best so far. The ending was more _Babylon 5_ than _Star Trek_, and I liked that they had some philosophical meat to the discussion, and has the Moclins make arguments that were not easily refuted. I could have done without the Mexican business. The holodeck was always the worst thing about ST:TNG and I hope they don’t keep bringing it back. But it worked as a straight SF adventure in the ST mode. The jokes were not all that good, but they kept them to a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/459 "2017-09-22T03:01:07Z")
The comment about making a omelet of of his baby was way out of line. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/460 "2017-09-22T03:19:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The comment about making a omelet of of his baby was way out of line. You didn’t even… \*crack \*a smile? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=24)