# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/481 "2017-09-23T00:12:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > They have great confidence in that force-field-that-keeps-air-in-but-lets-ships-out. One failure and everyone on the deck is swept out to a messy death by suffocation. Standard from STNG onward. Speaking of which, this episode is right up there with STNG. Was it about female circumcision? All hail Rudolph! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/482 "2017-09-23T00:19:09Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > On reflection, the early throwaway scene with the doctor and the blob seems relevant. So she thinks they’re not compatible as species? Big deal, he (?) can extrude a penis-like structure (probably a pretty versatile one) as needed, so what difference does it make? Yeah, but would you want your daughter to date him? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/483 "2017-09-23T00:25:20Z")
Is that a Turner on Ed’s wall. Yeah, he can be annoying, but so are all my friends. I would like to be Seth’s friend. :o ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/484 "2017-09-23T00:38:00Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Standard from STNG onward. > Speaking of which, this episode is right up there with STNG. You take that back! :mad: > [@](#): > > Was it about female circumcision? The Moclan advocate made an interesting point about male circumcision. Religion aside, it’s basically another nonessential form of surgical mutilation imposed on infants by their parents. I’m still trying to figure out how an androgynous/hermaphrodite species can identify themselves as either male or female. The once-in-75-years “females” are evidently born with “girl” parts, whatever those are like on that planet. So the Moclans’ claim to being “exclusively male” is tenuous at best. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/485 "2017-09-23T00:47:51Z")
Have I mentioned that I still love Sherry Palmer? Though my One True Love was Chloe. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/486 "2017-09-23T00:51:13Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Yeah, but would you want your daughter to date him? :dubious: I don’t have a daughter. _Any more._ ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/487 "2017-09-23T01:00:11Z")
When they successfully split the asteroid (unlike Spock in the TAS), I was expecting the planet that they saved to go after them for some reason that this asteroid was essential to their society. The boxing scene was hilarious, you could see the girl was hitting him as hard as she could and barely phasing him until the knockout punch (which looked to be CGI). She needs to put on a little muscle ( ie Spice Williams on ST5) to make it a little more believable. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/488 "2017-09-23T01:03:03Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Standard from STNG onward. Other SF, too–notably, the hangars on Death Stars long before STTNG. ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/489 "2017-09-23T01:11:47Z")
One other thing in Orville’s favor (unlike the upcoming ST Discovery) is the really bright sets which makes it hard to hide any deficiencies (effects.makeup, etc) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/490 "2017-09-23T01:13:50Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > When they successfully split the asteroid (unlike Spock in the TAS), I was expecting the planet that they saved to go after them for some reason that this asteroid was essential to their society. > > The boxing scene was hilarious, you could see the girl was hitting him as hard as she could and barely phasing him until the knockout punch (which looked to be CGI). > > She needs to put on a little muscle ( ie Spice Williams on ST5) to make it a little more believable. I was waiting for the problem to be compounded because there were now thousands of smaller asteroids to worry about, in addition to the two big chunks. :eek: **PSSSST!** : The verb is “faze,” not “phase.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/491 "2017-09-23T01:16:41Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > One other thing in Orville’s favor (unlike the upcoming ST Discovery) is the really bright sets which makes it hard to hide any deficiencies (effects.makeup, etc) Presumably they’re darkened slightly 8 out of every 24 hours. :o ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/492 "2017-09-23T01:28:04Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > When they successfully split the asteroid (unlike Spock in the TAS), I was expecting the planet that they saved to go after them for some reason that this asteroid was essential to their society. _ **TOS** _. \*\*\*TAS \*\*\*was the animated series. ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/493 "2017-09-23T01:31:17Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > _ **TOS** _. \*\*\*TAS \*\*\*was the animated series. sorry Typo ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/494 "2017-09-23T01:33:29Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I was waiting for the problem to be compounded because there were now thousands of smaller asteroids to worry about, in addition to the two big chunks. :eek: > > **PSSSST!** : The verb is “faze,” not “phase.” 😉 Learn something new every day. I though they were interchangeable, I was wrong ---
**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/495 "2017-09-23T01:34:55Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Presumably they’re darkened slightly 8 out of every 24 hours. :o Unless someone works on a different length day. In which case, people’ll just have to get used to it. Or have a psychotic episode. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/496 "2017-09-23T01:35:39Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > One other thing in Orville’s favor (unlike the upcoming ST Discovery) is the really bright sets which makes it hard to hide any deficiencies (effects.makeup, etc) Another point in its favor is that so far at least Orville seems to be an episodic show while the review I read today of the new Star Trek show said it’s going to be serialized, with the main storyline spread over the entire season. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/497 "2017-09-23T01:36:44Z")
And TAS was arguably better. > [@ssgenius](#): > > She needs to put on a little muscle ( ie Spice Williams on ST5) to make it a little more believable. No, the humor comes from her appearing to be the merest wisp of a girl. And despite my continued love for Penny Johnson Jerald, I was conditioned PRECISELY to respond to Adrianne Palicki. Though Penny’s more age-appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/498 "2017-09-23T01:37:57Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I was waiting for the problem to be compounded because there were now thousands of smaller asteroids to worry about, in addition to the two big chunks. :eek: > > **PSSSST!** : The verb is “faze,” not “phase.” 😉 The remains of the asteroid were shown to be moving away from the planet. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/499 "2017-09-23T01:39:08Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The remains of the asteroid were shown to be moving away from the planet. In time, gravity will always do you wrong. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/500 "2017-09-23T01:40:52Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Religion aside, it’s basically another nonessential form of surgical mutilation imposed on infants by their parents. Have you ever heard of “head cheese”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=26)