# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/501 "2017-09-23T01:43:47Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > In time, gravity will always do you wrong. “an object in motion will continue in that motion.” -Sir Issac Newton. ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/502 "2017-09-23T01:46:09Z")
The lady they found (Rena Owen) was in 2 Star Wars movies (ep 2 and 3) as well. The actors/actresses keep getting recycled. Time for Shatner to make a surprise appearance (or Takei if they want some gay jokes) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/503 "2017-09-23T01:48:28Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Have you ever heard of “head cheese”? Nothing a little soap and water can’t fix. :o BTW, what was the British SF series that used “smeghead” a lot as an insult? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/504 "2017-09-23T01:49:01Z")
Oh! That was the painting of Gallifrey burning! Like I said, do NOT make a drinking game of Seth’s references. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/505 "2017-09-23T01:52:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The remains of the asteroid were shown to be moving away from the planet. Why not just deflect the damned thing instead of creating lots of potential problems for the future? Put it into a completely different orbit. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/506 "2017-09-23T01:53:43Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > The lady they found (Rena Owen) was in 2 Star Wars movies (ep 2 and 3) as well. > > The actors/actresses keep getting recycled. Time for Shatner to make a surprise appearance (or Takei if they want some gay jokes) I’d expect Patrick Stewart to go first, given his long-standing association with MacFarlane (Stewart voices Avery Bullock on _American Dad_, narrated MacFarlane’s movie _Ted_ etc.) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/507 "2017-09-23T01:55:27Z")
Oh! That was the painting of Gallifrey burning! Like I said, do not make a drinking game of Seth’s references. You might die. ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/508 "2017-09-23T01:58:49Z")
Going back to the earlier episodes One other detail that I picked up is that one can see the Empire State building and Brooklyn Bridge in the background. (Still looking for the Chrysler building) The Empire State Building is dwarfed by the buildings around it which seems a little unrealistic but consider new Super tall buildings under construction and planned in New York (and Dubai) it might be feasible ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/509 "2017-09-23T02:00:40Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Why not just deflect the damned thing instead of creating lots of potential problems for the future? Put it into a completely different orbit. Apparently at its full mass, it’s too big to deflect. One cut roughly in half, though, the daughter asteroids can be pushed around more easily and presumably parked into safe orbits. I have a bigger problem with being able to see the planet in the background. I have to figure that if the asteroid is that close, you don’t have months before it hits; you have minutes or seconds. Oh, well… artistic license. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/510 "2017-09-23T02:28:34Z")
**Bryan** , my dear friend, I tried to go all trek/science/sf/whatever nerd, but it’s just a show. Look at his ex when it gets stupid. That’s why the Golden Age covers were drawn. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/511 "2017-09-23T02:49:19Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **Bryan** , my dear friend, I tried to go all trek/science/sf/whatever nerd, but it’s just a show. Look at his ex when it gets stupid. That’s why the Golden Age covers were drawn. I especially like November: :o [![](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b4-mnbjZDeQ/WFbkUDwv4tI/AAAAAAAAZ8M/1N1VCP5ezwUFkbhBUoSDUPvwxkwzYgMYgCLcB/s1600/alltopcomicscovers.jpg) ](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b4-mnbjZDeQ/WFbkUDwv4tI/AAAAAAAAZ8M/1N1VCP5ezwUFkbhBUoSDUPvwxkwzYgMYgCLcB/s1600/alltopcomicscovers.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/512 "2017-09-23T02:53:42Z")
Oh, sweet Mother of God! You do know I’m widowed and vulnerable, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/513 "2017-09-23T03:04:27Z")
Patrick Stewart should show up in a Shatneresque toupee. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/514 "2017-09-23T03:08:57Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I thought the advocate for the Moclan made pretty reasonable arguments (and some of the Orville crew’s arguments were super weak - oh, a female of super strong species is stronger than the male of a weaker species, no shit?) and that socities that are more or less functioning perfectly fine should be able to handle their own matters internally - so I was actually happy to see the resolution of the episode and thought well of the show for how it turned out. On Star Trek our crew would’ve made perfect arguments and the backwards race would’ve made comically evil/poor arguments and our crew would’ve won with their moralizing ways wrapping it all up with a ribbon. This was actually fairly brave for a light hearted trek type show. “Brave” was precisely the word my wife and I used. The “wrong” side won. There was no trick, no change of heart; the baby went through a sex change, and that’s that. Mercer and Grayson walked away in defeat. By network show standards that’s… not edgy, but honest, shall we say. The good guys did not prevail, and maybe the bad guys were not all bad. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/515 "2017-09-23T03:09:59Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > On reflection, the early throwaway scene with the doctor and the blob seems relevant. So she thinks they’re not compatible as species? Big deal, he (?) can extrude a penis-like structure (probably a pretty versatile one) as needed, so what difference does it make? Yeah, just ask Odo. 😉 Better yet, ask Kira… ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/516 "2017-09-23T03:10:05Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Patrick Stewart should show up in a Shatneresque toupee. I read somewhere he wore a rug when asked to meet with Paramount executives prior to being confirmed as Picard. It was so ratty that Roddenberry and Justman made him take it off. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/517 "2017-09-23T03:50:52Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Nothing a little soap and water can’t fix. :o > > BTW, what was the British SF series that used “smeghead” a lot as an insult? :dubious: Red Dwarf. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/518 "2017-09-23T03:56:59Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Red Dwarf. That’s it! 🙂 I had one of my EFL classes record an episode from a script I got off the Internet. Since they were all high schoolers, I had to gloss over the meaning of that particular term. :o ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/519 "2017-09-23T04:24:56Z")
> [@ssgenius](#): > > When they successfully split the asteroid (unlike Spock in the TAS), I was expecting the planet that they saved to go after them for some reason that this asteroid was essential to their society. > [@terentii](#): > > I was waiting for the problem to be compounded because there were now thousands of smaller asteroids to worry about, in addition to the two big chunks. :eek: > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The remains of the asteroid were shown to be moving away from the planet. > [@terentii](#): > > Why not just deflect the damned thing instead of creating lots of potential problems for the future? Put it into a completely different orbit. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Apparently at its full mass, it’s too big to deflect. One cut roughly in half, though, the daughter asteroids can be pushed around more easily and presumably parked into safe orbits. > > I have a bigger problem with being able to see the planet in the background. I have to figure that if the asteroid is that close, you don’t have months before it hits; you have minutes or seconds. Oh, well… artistic license. Wait… so that scene wasn’t supposed to be an obvious send-up of _Armageddon_? I thought the joke was, “We told the whole story of your two-hour movie in two and a half minutes!” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/520 "2017-09-23T04:50:16Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > “Brave” was precisely the word my wife and I used. The “wrong” side won. There was no trick, no change of heart; the baby went through a sex change, and that’s that. Mercer and Grayson walked away in defeat. > . Perhaps they should’ve shown Rudolph to the tribunal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=27)