# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/801 "2017-10-07T14:51:36Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **It was not Logical!** > > **It a stupid sight gag** and it just happened to work for me at least. It was \*funny \*because it was _unexpected_. :o ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/802 "2017-10-07T15:20:27Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Sure. But within the necessities of _this_ plot – especially because it was an extremely important plot point – the audience needed to understand the reference immediately. _Seinfeld_ meant that you didn’t have to explain the show they were watching, whereas something made up would just confuse the issue. True. > [@RealityChuck](#): > > I think the idea that there’s constant turnover and they may hire people off the books. Since they’re probably a long way from any central authority, they can play fast-and-loose with regulations and not bother keeping up the paperwork. It just seemed odd that both Ed and Alara raised the same point, in nearly the same way. Maybe it’s a reference to some future pop-culture about a hilarious mining company that can’t keep track of its staff. > [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Also, the “jar of pickles” line continues to appear. What is that, in three of the first four episodes? I should double-check that before the show count gets too high, and update the pickle count every episode. That’s the kind of turn-of-phrase that a real person might end up using habitually. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/803 "2017-10-07T15:32:08Z")
It’s a “running gag” like the “Ow, my spleen” line in Brewster Rocket. They should play against it soon. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/804 "2017-10-07T16:46:12Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > That’s the kind of turn-of-phrase that a real person might end up using habitually. Just wait until they reference that lame 21st Century thing about throwing shit in a quarry 🙂 Or a list of three things that ends with Hi Opal Wait, my shuttle craft is full of eels ! And you know that Mocklan is related to Hal Briston somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/805 "2017-10-07T17:39:00Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I must have missed something. I got it was Molloy’s leg, and that Isaac had hidden it in the ceiling, but why did he put it in Priya’s room? Just turned out that way? And why did it choose to fall at that particular moment? Did someone do something to trigger it? 😕 It was also a whole leg, while if you remember, Malloy’s leg had only been amputated from the knee down. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/806 "2017-10-07T17:50:33Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > It’s a “running gag” like the “Ow, my spleen” line in Brewster Rocket. They should play against it soon. I expect one of these days there will be some pickle-shaped aliens behind the door. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/807 "2017-10-07T17:51:41Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It was also a whole leg, while if you remember, Malloy’s leg had only been amputated from the knee down. The first Orville blooper. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/808 "2017-10-07T18:09:24Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > By the way, what’s the deal with everyone’s prejudice about mining company’s record-keeping practices? I agree. Mining companies had better be clear on who has the rights to what minerals, what’s the value of those minerals, etc. Otherwise, there will be a lot of disputes which could lead to lawsuits or even war. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/809 "2017-10-07T21:56:40Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The first Orville blooper. ^^^^ ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/810 "2017-10-08T01:05:42Z")
Oh, one more thing: during this episode, the resemblance of the various sets to ST:TNG sets really struck me, particularly the Engineering set, and the “guest suite” (the resemblance has been there since the beginning, I’m sure, but for some reason it just hit me more during this episode. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/811 "2017-10-08T01:43:59Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Oh, one more thing: during this episode, the resemblance of the various sets to ST:TNG sets really struck me, particularly the Engineering set, and the “guest suite” (the resemblance has been there since the beginning, I’m sure, but for some reason it just hit me more during this episode. Tremendous amounts of wasted space, all of which must be constantly monitored and maintained. A tremendous amount of wasted energy. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/812 "2017-10-08T03:18:26Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Tremendous amounts of wasted space, all of which must be constantly monitored and maintained. A tremendous amount of wasted energy. Just like Picard’s Enterprise (and Kirk’s too - think about how wide the corridors are in the NCC-1701 (no bloody A)). ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/813 "2017-10-08T03:35:32Z")
If you’re going to live on that ship for years, you literally need the space for basic sanity purposes. There’s a psychological cost to small spaces and dense crowding. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/814 "2017-10-08T03:45:32Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > I like the pickle line as well, kinda why I’m noticing it. It’s silly, so stupid it comes back around to being funny. > > I read somewhere that every episode of, “Family Guy” has the phrase, “What the HELL, Peter?” or “Peter, what the HELL?” usually said by lois or brian … ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/815 "2017-10-08T04:10:19Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > If you’re going to live on that ship for years, you literally need the space for basic sanity purposes. There’s a psychological cost to small spaces and dense crowding. That’s what periodic shore leave and recreational areas like holodecks are for. Nowadays, no crew spends “years” confined inside submarines or even aircraft carriers, do they? In a truly spacefaring civilization, crew rest and rotation would be programmed from the start. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/816 "2017-10-08T04:38:09Z")
> [@The Most Reliable Reference Book in History](#): > > Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space. A true space-faring civilization would take that into account. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/817 "2017-10-08T12:38:49Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > If you’re going to live on that ship for years, you literally need the space for basic sanity purposes. There’s a psychological cost to small spaces and dense crowding. There is but overall Navies have handled it. > [@terentii](#): > > That’s what periodic shore leave and recreational areas like holodecks are for. > > Nowadays, no crew spends “years” confined inside submarines or even aircraft carriers, do they? In a truly spacefaring civilization, crew rest and rotation would be programmed from the start. The Theodore Roosevelt, CVN-71 [set the modern record at 159 days at sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Theodore_Roosevelt_(CVN-71)#2000s). That shattered the record my own ship (CV-61) had set of 121 days at sea back on our 1987 West Pac. So while not years, why would the Orville need to be out for years? On Carriers the crew is packed tight and even the officers are packed fairly tight with the exception of the Captain, XO and Admiral (when on board). There are no spacious guest quarters, that is for sure. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/818 "2017-10-08T12:45:33Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > A true space-faring civilization would take that into account. … And divide each known area into sectors that can be traversed and explored in reasonable lengths of time. In _ **Star Trek** _, only around ten percent of the Galaxy was known. Have they given a figure like this in _ **The Orville** _? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/819 "2017-10-08T12:46:20Z")
With energy from anti-matter and replicators that cab make just about anything, there is no reason to make ships as large as one desires. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/820 "2017-10-08T13:01:09Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Just like Picard’s Enterprise (and Kirk’s too - think about how wide the corridors are in the NCC-1701 (no bloody A)). You could make a case for wide corridors; they might be needed in ship-abandoning emergencies, f’rinstance. (In reality, they were needed for the camera dolly, but that’s neither here nor there.) But the crew’s quarters on _ **TNG** _? Freakin’ $5000-a-night hotel suites is what they were. And all those “guest quarters” that must have been empty most of the time? It boggles the mind! (Of course, luxuries like these were “needed” because there were “families” on board, with all the resource-consuming, space-wasting nonessential personnel that implies. :smack: ) _ **TOS** _ was at least realistic in showing much smaller and less opulent crew’s quarters. Not even the senior officers’ were that big, and (according to _ **The Making of Star Trek** _) junior officers had to share their quarters with a roommate. (For some reason, this apparently wasn’t true for the only junior officers’ whose quarters we saw—Uhura’s, Rand’s, McGivers’…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=42)