# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/821 "2017-10-08T13:05:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > With energy from anti-matter and replicators that cab make just about anything, there is no reason to make ships as large as one desires. I think you mean “no reason \*\*not \*\*to make ships as large as one desires.” Fine. Then your ship has power to waste, and loss of power can never pose a danger, like it does in so many episodes of _ **Star Trek** _. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/822 "2017-10-08T13:09:16Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > (For some reason, this apparently wasn’t true for the only junior officers’ whose quarters we saw—Uhura’s, Rand’s, McGivers’…) … the only junior officers whose quarters we saw—Uhura’s, Rand’s, McGivers’ … ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/823 "2017-10-08T13:32:34Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I think you mean “no reason \*\*not \*\*to make ships as large as one desires.” > > Fine. Then your ship has power to waste, and loss of power can never pose a danger, like it does in so many episodes of _ **Star Trek** _. Hey, no body expected a giant hand to materialize and grab the saucer section! ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/824 "2017-10-08T17:12:13Z")
The ship has power to waste _under normal circumstances_. We’ve often the order to “shut down non-essential systems” during an emergency. My god, I just had the image of a guy getting it on with a holobimbo and having her, and the bed under her, disappear. That’d ruin your whole day. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/825 "2017-10-08T17:28:59Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > We’ve often the order to “shut down non-essential systems” during an emergency. I’ll wager the authors saw that in submarine movies. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/826 "2017-10-08T18:03:26Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > The ship has power to waste _under normal circumstances_. We’ve often the order to “shut down non-essential systems” during an emergency. My god, I just had the image of a guy getting it on with a holobimbo and having her, and the bed under her, disappear. That’d ruin your whole day. Note to self: If ever having sex with a holobabe, stick with the cowgirl position. And maybe doggie-style. And avoid holobeds–just put a holoblanket on the holofloor, or something. Boy, this is getting complicated. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/827 "2017-10-08T19:07:51Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Note to self: If ever having sex with a holobabe, stick with the cowgirl position. And maybe doggie-style. And avoid holobeds–just put a holoblanket on the holofloor, or something. Boy, this is getting complicated. It’s easier and more resource-conserving to just stick with articulated love dolls if you can’t find a real partner on board. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/828 "2017-10-08T19:34:03Z")
Of course, now a precedent has been set - you can anesthetize and surgically remove the genitals of anyone you want for your personal use and call it a joke while they go through the minor inconvenience of growing new ones. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/829 "2017-10-08T20:30:44Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > The ship has power to waste _under normal circumstances_. We’ve often the order to “shut down non-essential systems” during an emergency. On _ **TNG** _, that would mean at least 90% of \*\*all \*\*systems were shut down, leaving the abovementioned nonessential personnel in the cold and dark with no food, no water, no waste disposal, nothing. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/830 "2017-10-08T21:25:24Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It was also a whole leg, while if you remember, Malloy’s leg had only been amputated from the knee down. Who said it was Malloy’s ? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/831 "2017-10-08T21:26:57Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Fine. Then your ship has power to waste, and loss of power can never pose a danger, like it does in so many episodes of _ **Star Trek** _. That’s almost exactly what David Gerrold wrote about this issue in (I think) “Worlds of Star Trek” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/832 "2017-10-08T22:56:40Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > That’s almost exactly what David Gerrold wrote about this issue in (I think) “Worlds of Star Trek” It is only logical. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/833 "2017-10-08T23:42:33Z")
I’m straight, but confused. Is Seth kinda hot? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/834 "2017-10-08T23:55:07Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I’m straight, but confused. Is Seth kinda hot? I’m gay and he is, but his voice is a mood killer for me. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/835 "2017-10-09T00:04:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Of course, now a precedent has been set - you can anesthetize and surgically remove the genitals of anyone you want for your personal use and call it a joke while they go through the minor inconvenience of growing new ones. “Grow a pair” will never be the same… I think the amputated leg should have been made into a lamp…and then found…a shout out to Christmas Story if you will… PS. When the “practical joke challenge” was made…my first thought was “oh, I bet this DOES get inappropriate/dangerous”. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/836 "2017-10-09T16:08:56Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I’m straight, but confused. Is Seth kinda hot? He dated Danaerys Targaryen. He’s got something going for him. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/837 "2017-10-09T16:11:04Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > _ **TOS** _ was at least realistic in showing much smaller and less opulent crew’s quarters. Not even the senior officers’ were that big, and (according to _ **The Making of Star Trek** _) junior officers had to share their quarters with a roommate. (For some reason, this apparently wasn’t true for the only junior officers’ whose quarters we saw—Uhura’s, Rand’s, McGivers’…) Uhura was a first shift bridge officer and chief of communications. She would not have been at the same level as some schmoe. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/838 "2017-10-09T16:21:26Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Uhura was a first shift bridge officer and chief of communications. She would not have been at the same level as some schmoe. First **watch**. And she was one of several communications officers of equal rank who also stood first watch. The question of her seniority was never explored. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/839 "2017-10-09T16:51:53Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > First **watch**. And she was one of several communications officers of equal rank who also stood first watch. The question of her seniority was never explored. She was Sr Comms Officer; a department (or at least division) head. In one episode she was given the command, can’t remember the exact setup. But somehow Scotty wasn’t available who was 3rd in command. Uhura was a fairly senior bridge officer, but it seemed inconsistent if she was senior to Sulu or not. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/840 "2017-10-09T17:09:14Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > She was Sr Comms Officer; a department (or at least division) head. In one episode she was given the command, can’t remember the exact setup. But somehow Scotty wasn’t available who was 3rd in command. Uhura was a fairly senior bridge officer, but it seemed inconsistent if she was senior to Sulu or not. I don’t remember Uhura ever assuming command. She took the helm in one episode that I recall. I can remember hearing it said (always in non-canonical sources like message boards and such) that she was supposed to be fourth in command, after Scotty, but I don’t think we ever heard that officially, and I don’t remember ever seeing it happen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=43)