# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/881 "2017-10-11T14:01:34Z")
My “primary” TV is in the basement and with a rooftop antenna I was OK until the people putting in my new gutters disconnected it. I complained and the attached the wire to the pole but didn’t reconnect it to the actual antenna. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/882 "2017-10-12T00:21:53Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > My “primary” TV is in the basement and with a rooftop antenna I was OK until the people putting in my new gutters disconnected it. I complained and the attached the wire to the pole but didn’t reconnect it to the actual antenna. Do you have a landlord, or a ladder? ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/883 "2017-10-12T06:40:14Z")
I really like the show, but I’m hesitant to fall in love because I hate it when they get cancelled. I like that they’re spoofing Star Trek, but they didn’t go full “Airplane”. I love that I can’t guess every friggin development in the story. I loved ST TOS TNG DS9 even Enterprise, but I was starting to feel psychic, it got predictable. I like Seth’s humor, so tacky dick/poop jokes are great. One big thing I’m liking is that being part spoof/comedy lets me handwave tons of stuff that would bug me in a more serious show. Stuff like the unexplained workings of gender on Moclan, or the oversimplification of a plot point. It’s still stuff worth talking about, but it doesn’t take me out of the show like it could. Most are looking forward to the next episode, some are hoping for a next season. I am SALIVATING at the idea of a MOVIE!!! I loved Beavis and Butthead when it came out, I ran to the theater when the movie came out. Then:eek::smack: RATED PG:mad: A few years later I loved South Park, heard the movie was coming… didn’t care. I just knew it would be another walking turd. As we all know the damn thing opened with “Uncle Fucker”😃 I was a happy boy. The Orville movie could be greatness. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/884 "2017-10-12T14:22:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Do you have a landlord, or a ladder? I own the home and my roof climbing days are long past. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/885 "2017-10-12T15:12:30Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I own the home and my roof climbing days are long past. look around you - maybe you could build a rudimentary lathe… ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/886 "2017-10-13T02:17:27Z")
“That’s a brand new leg!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/887 "2017-10-13T02:36:22Z")
“Now, don’t get mad…” ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/888 "2017-10-13T02:45:43Z")
Another great episode. Scored the shuttle, went for the Bible, saved the planet, came home with a complete destroyer.😃 Loved the name discussion. We need Krill names! ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/889 "2017-10-13T02:47:48Z")
Liked the callback to the TZ movie. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/890 "2017-10-13T02:51:53Z")
Continuing with my catch up, I’ve now watched the first 3 episodes… Still enjoying. In fact, I felt episode 3 was the strongest, so the trajectory is looking very good: A very strong message, but at the same time a lot of the jokes landed, and I liked the Moclus homeworld, so just all around a well-done episode. Very reminiscent of some of the classic trek “courtroom” episodes, but frankly, I can’t think of any that were done better than this. Really hope it doesn’t get cancelled now. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/891 "2017-10-13T03:11:50Z")
Also: really shocked that Discovery has had a very positive critical response on rotten tomatoes and Orville had a very negative one. Clearly they understand trek no better than Abrams, and I’ll remember to ingest a fair amount of salt next time I check their consensus view on something. Or: do they have some beef with macfarlane or something? A critic score of 19% vs audience score of 91% is about as big a disparity as I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/892 "2017-10-13T03:44:15Z")
'What happened to the automatic fire supression?" “That was the panel that caught on fire!” Great episode - all the way thru. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/893 "2017-10-13T04:38:22Z")
> [@simster](#): > > 'What happened to the automatic fire supression?" > > “That was the panel that caught on fire!” I would have \*\*loved \*\*to hear Scotty or Geordie say this, just once! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/894 "2017-10-13T04:40:51Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Liked the callback to the TZ movie. Please specify? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/895 "2017-10-13T04:50:17Z")
That episode was terrible. I’ve really liked the show but in this one they were complete idiots in the planning and the blending in on a Krill ship. Almost a completely unthoughtout plot. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/896 "2017-10-13T04:55:09Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > That episode was terrible. I’ve really liked the show but in this one they were complete idiots in the planning and the blending in on a Krill ship. Almost a completely unthoughtout plot. Sort of like “The Enterprise Incident,” eh? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/897 "2017-10-13T05:01:26Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Sort of like “The Enterprise Incident,” eh? I have no idea what that is. I’m not really a Star Trek watcher (though I am familiar with the series in question). All I know is that sending the Captain and pilot into a Krill destroyer, when none of them really has any idea what the Krill are like, and then while blending in the pilot seems to deliberately want to reveal their cover seems like the absolute dumbest thing possible. What I liked about where The Orville was going was that the humor was what ordinary people may crack jokes about in these type of situations. Trying to blend in as a Krill while making not exactly quiet jokes about their God seems boneheadedly dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/898 "2017-10-13T05:09:25Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > That episode was terrible. I’ve really liked the show but in this one they were complete idiots in the planning and the blending in on a Krill ship. Almost a completely unthoughtout plot. There were good moments, but yeah, they can’t all be “Balance of Terror.” I guess a, “Spock’s Brain” will sneak in now and again. The one encouraging thing is that there WERE good moments. I feel like they dropped the ball a bit with trying to make peace with the kids and the one remaining survivor. Whenever there’s a chance to better explain their position, they always seem to bumble it. Their defense of Bortus’ child was ham-handed, for example. They didn’t really try too hard to convince the teacher why they were on the ship and that they had come to research them and find common ground, only to find themselves in a rescue mission to prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths. Of course, given that they ritually desecrate the bodies of humans in their religious ceremonies, there was no chance they’d make any immediately meaningful headway, but it seems like they didn’t really try. The infiltration of the ship was FAR too slapstick. Better effort and planning, along with an occasional funny, seat-of-their-pants ad-lib would have worked better. I feel like they need to root themselves better in reality to make the humor land better. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/899 "2017-10-13T06:42:22Z")
I liked it, though the AVIS jokes were a few too many. The contention that this civilization was becoming more religious while becoming more technologically advanced was an interesting one, although the religious ritual seemed a tad barbaric. Definitely not enlightened. Killing the crew but saving the children seemed like something they didn’t think through, and the last line from the Krill teacher was worth remembering. You can’t be both the villain and the hero. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/900 "2017-10-13T10:25:01Z")
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