# The Orville-Seth McFarlane **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814 "2017-05-17T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1281 "2017-11-14T13:55:47Z")
> [@turner](#): > > Does anyone else think that Isaac sounds exactly like Data? I mean like the same person exactly? I know IMDB says its a different guy, but Isaac sounds an awful lot like Brent Spiner. To be honest, no, and even listening to their voices, no, they don’t sound like the same person. I mean, they’re similar in that both actors are trying to affect an unemotional voice, but it sounds like two different people doing a robot voice. Jackson’s accent comes through a little, too. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1282 "2017-11-14T14:42:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > To be honest, no, and even listening to their voices, no, they don’t sound like the same person. > > I mean, they’re similar in that both actors are trying to affect an unemotional voice, but it sounds like two different people doing a robot voice. Jackson’s accent comes through a little, too. yeah, I think it’s just the way he speaks. Of course, at first I thought Bortus sounded pretty much like Worf until I compared them. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1283 "2017-11-14T17:34:44Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Not one of their best programs, IMHO, due to a rather glaring omission. If Dariulo is well enough known in the Union to be trusted with a major mission like this (after all, he was the focal point of making a decision that affected two hostile species), and well enough known on earth to have access to a Naval commander’s wife, it would seem to me that his species would have been studied and this…personal problem…would have been well-known and studied and easily available to all–especially highly educated military folks who have to deal with multiple species. So while I liked the idea, that it would come from a known species that has intensive interaction with the Planetary Union (probably even a member) exceeded my willingness to believe. That’s a good point. In the first Star Trek movie, Ilia comes on board, she’s a Deltan, and her “oath of celibacy” is on record. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1284 "2017-11-14T17:59:45Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > That’s a good point. In the first Star Trek movie, Ilia comes on board, she’s a Deltan, and her “oath of celibacy” is on record. And Decker has trouble standing. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1285 "2017-11-14T19:16:12Z")
> [@simster](#): > > And Decker has trouble standing. It’s the ears. They cause drag in any wind at all. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1286 "2017-11-14T21:22:21Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > That’s a good point. In the first Star Trek movie, Ilia comes on board, she’s a Deltan, and her “oath of celibacy” is on record. There was probably a mixup during Darulio’s stint on a mining ship. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1287 "2017-11-14T21:33:44Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > There was probably a mixup during Darulio’s stint on a mining ship. 😉 Can’t be. Rob Lowe would never agree to be filmed having sex with miners. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1288 "2017-11-14T21:57:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can’t be. Rob Lowe would never agree to be filmed having sex with miners. \ ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1289 "2017-11-14T22:22:09Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can’t be. Rob Lowe would never agree to be filmed having sex with miners. Five thousand quatloos to you, good sir! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1290 "2017-11-14T22:51:27Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > yeah, I think it’s just the way he speaks. Of course, at first I thought Bortus sounded pretty much like Worf until I compared them. Bortus is the Worf-figure. They both take things quite literally and are very humorous in their bluntness. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1291 "2017-11-15T00:20:32Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can’t be. Rob Lowe would never agree to be filmed having sex with miners. LOL, well played. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1292 "2017-11-17T03:43:02Z")
Well, that was disappointing. I guess only one outright dud (IMO) in ten episodes is a pretty good ratio. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1293 "2017-11-17T03:46:25Z")
I enjoyed it! Flashback to several TNG episodes. I liked that one of the examples Ed gave was drunkenness for using the directive. We did wonder about the clown for her and other things and so appreciated how they came up with it. Really thought of the best of TNG with this one. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1294 "2017-11-17T05:19:18Z")
I was kind of reminded of the DS9 ep “If Wishes Were Horses”. But yeah, mostly “Where No One has Gone Before”. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1295 "2017-11-17T09:08:16Z")
I thought the episode got sufficiently creepy, well, as creepy as mainstream TV can get. I was disappointed with the simulation reveal. It came too early and undercut the tension with the hangar scene. I was also intrigued with the idea of an eldritch horror accidentally picked up in the darkness of space. A malevolent ‘Q’ if you will. The creepy clown was well done. Could have been a cool recurring villain. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1296 "2017-11-17T14:22:36Z")
Not a good episode; “It was all a dream” is the biggest cheat in literature and that’s what it was. It trashes everything that goes before it and is contemptuous of the audience. This is the first episode where the humor was the high point. Partly because the humor has improved and also because the story was so pedestrian. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1297 "2017-11-17T15:19:36Z")
I guessed it was a simulation immediately. The gym scene in the holodeck\* earlier was a giveaway, and it was the easiest and obvious answer. I thought it was an okay episode, not great, but I like the character so having an episode focused on her was nice. \*I may have missed it, but did they give their simulation room a name? I assume they can’t use ‘holodeck’. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1298 "2017-11-17T15:34:54Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Not a good episode; “It was all a dream” is the biggest cheat in literature and that’s what it was. It trashes everything that goes before it and is contemptuous of the audience. > . Yeah but, the whole show is commentary on the genre. They have explored a major cliche in just about every episode. Seems weird to complain about it now. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1299 "2017-11-17T17:47:55Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Not a good episode; “It was all a dream” is the biggest cheat in literature and that’s what it was. It trashes everything that goes before it and is contemptuous of the audience. Actually, it’s a Kobayashi Maru story with the twist that Alara did it to herself, and no more a cheat than when Saavik, Troi, Wesley Crusher, et al did it. It’s still “a test of character.” As for the actual script, it was a great Halloween episode. Too bad they didn’t show it three weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814/1300 "2017-11-17T20:28:57Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Not a good episode; “It was all a dream” is the biggest cheat in literature and that’s what it was. It trashes everything that goes before it and is contemptuous of the audience. THIS [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-orville-seth-mcfarlane/786814.md?page=66)