# The Oscar Rehash Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263 "2006-03-06T17:18:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/21 "2006-03-06T18:59:46Z")

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I found myself laughing at a lot of Stewart’s jokes that none of the audience (or any of the folks I was watching with) seemed to laugh at.

Ah well. I enjoyed him.

I was very underwhelmed by all three ‘best original song’ nominees. 3 6 Mafia definitely had the best of the three, but they were all pretty bland, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/22 "2006-03-06T18:59:49Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Here’s a thought. Why don’t they scrap this sexist division between Actor/Actress and just give an Oscar for the Best Performance?

Because there would be a lot fewer women nominated. The ratio of male leading roles to female leading roles is about 3/1.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/23 "2006-03-06T19:00:39Z")

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> [@teela brown](#):
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> I completely missed the name of that brunette actress in the eye-popping light sapphire-colored gown. Whoever she was, that dress gets my vote as the most spectacular one of the evening. Yes, it was tight, but she could carry it.

Selma Hayek? She was wearing something tight & teal-colored.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/24 "2006-03-06T19:02:58Z")

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I doubt if anyone else thought this waas funny but during the gay cowboys clips, they had one cowboy showing his pistol to another. Carved into the wooden handle he had engraved his name. I was expecting something more romanic like _The Waco Kid_ or _Dusty_ or _Greased Lightning_ or something but, instead, it just said “Steve”. Bwhaaa, that’s when I personally wet myself.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/25 "2006-03-06T19:09:08Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> Looked like Lauren Bacall barely made it through her intro, but she recouped and finished strongly.

My GF wondered if she might be suffereing from Parkinson’s.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/26 "2006-03-06T19:19:56Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I like Stewart but what’s the betting that he joins the ranks of the one-off Oscar hosts, ala Letterman and Rock?. He was OK but I really don’t think he did well enough with the mainstream audience (always the bottom line at the Oscars) to become a regular.

I agree. Stewart was meh to me. I prefered Rock last year, but that won’t play with the Oscar faithful. Someone like Leno is perfect for what they are going for. A ‘safe’ choice who plays with the mainstream (who is more “According to Jim” than “Arrested Development”, for example).

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/27 "2006-03-06T19:25:11Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Selma Hayek? She was wearing something tight & teal-colored.

Yeah, that was her name. Stunning gown. Jennifer Lopez’s green number was a show-stopper, too.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/28 "2006-03-06T19:41:29Z")

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Stewart was OK, but seemed subdued, as though he knew it wouldn’t fly if he went all out.

The awards were interesting. It’s the first time since 1956 that the top six awards – Picture, Director, Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor and Supporting Actress – all went to different films.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/29 "2006-03-06T19:44:07Z")

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From the Academy voting rules:

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> In the Original Song category, Music Branch members shall meet to screen clips of the eligible songs and vote on the achievements. Following the screening of the clips, voting shall be conducted as follows:
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> Nominations will be determined by an averaged point system of voting using 10, 9.5, 9, 8.5, 8, 7.5, 7, 6.5 or 6. Only those songs receiving an average score of 8.25 or more shall be eligible for nomination. There may not be more than five nor fewer than three nominations.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/30 "2006-03-06T19:49:14Z")

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Most of the time when the “top six” awards are referred to, the two screenplay awards make up two of them. Thus, _It Happened One Night_, _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_, and _The Silence of the Lambs_ are called the only movies to win the top six Oscars.

All in all, a screenplay determines much more of the quality of the resulting film than most supporting performances.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/31 "2006-03-06T19:49:52Z")

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I didn’t watch all that much because I’m just not an award show watcher.

But from reading around various sites I’m getting the idea that Stewart did just fine. For example, [Those big stars just don’t get Jon Stewart](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11687022/).

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/32 "2006-03-06T19:52:38Z")

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Well, actually since the same movie can’t win both screenplay awards, make that the only movies to win the “top five” awards.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/33 "2006-03-06T19:55:06Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> I didn’t watch all that much because I’m just not an award show watcher.
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> But from reading around various sites I’m getting the idea that Stewart did just fine. For example, [Those big stars just don’t get Jon Stewart](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11687022/).

That article seems wierd. While I do think that Letterman and Rock did pretty decent (Letterman always gets a bad rep for his hosting job, but Hell, he’s David Letterman, immature antics are his bag!), the statement that the Scientology joke fell flat was incorrect, IIRC, it got the biggest laughs of the night.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/34 "2006-03-06T20:02:29Z")

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Dang! Apparently I missed the Scientology jokes as well as the gay cowboy montage…I picked the wrong time to go pick up my daughter. Can anyone recap the Scientology stuff?

On another previously mentioned topic - wasn’t the woman who made “The Triumph of the Will” quite the Nazi sympathizer? Doesn’t surprise me that people didn’t want to clap for her.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/35 "2006-03-06T20:03:52Z")

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I totally don’t get the “Jon Stewart bombed” thing. I thought he was hysterically funny – much funnier than the prepackaged shtick by the presenters (with the possible exception of Ben Stiller’s, which cracked me up).

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/36 "2006-03-06T20:06:49Z")

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> [@well he's back](#):
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> On another previously mentioned topic - wasn’t the woman who made “The Triumph of the Will” quite the Nazi sympathizer? Doesn’t surprise me that people didn’t want to clap for her.

😕😕😕

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/37 "2006-03-06T20:11:13Z")

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sorry twickster - got my Oscar threads mixed up - in the other thread folks were discussing how long people clapped for dead celebrities in the obituary montage. And somehow Leni Riefenstahl (misspelled, I’m sure) was mentioned.  
Someone said she was a Nazi; someone else said, no, she just made movies about Nazis.  
Anyway, that’s what I was referring to.  
PS - I like montages, but the music chosen for the message movie montage was bizarre.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/38 "2006-03-06T20:11:52Z")

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> [@well he's back](#):
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> Dang! Apparently I missed the Scientology jokes as well as the gay cowboy montage…I picked the wrong time to go pick up my daughter. Can anyone recap the Scientology stuff?

As they came back from commercial, Stewart was saying something to the extent of how Hollywood should embrace Scientology. Playing up like he was a member, and trying to convert the audience during the break.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/39 "2006-03-06T20:13:02Z")

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Here’s the exact quote:

“And that is why I think Scientology is right, not just for this city, but for the country.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/40 "2006-03-06T20:28:11Z")

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As I said in the “Crash” thread, but should have just posted in here:

Ben Stiller almost never makes me laugh, but he did on Sunday. “Envelope… open yourself!” Steve Carrell and Will Ferrell were also funny (and I don’t like Ferrell either).

I don’t know how Stewart could have bombed. The audience reaction was hard to read, but is that what people go by instead of whether the jokes are funny?

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