# The Oscar Rehash Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263 "2006-03-06T17:18:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/81 "2006-03-07T05:41:34Z")
I don’t think anybody disputed that the academy loves movies about show biz; it definitely does. But does a list of nominated “L.A. movies” mean anything without knowing how many total films are actually set in there? ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/82 "2006-03-07T05:59:58Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think anybody disputed that the academy loves movies about show biz; it definitely does. But does a list of nominated “L.A. movies” mean anything without knowing how many total films are actually set in there? Maybe not. It’s just my sense that Hollywood is a little self-absorbed. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/83 "2006-03-07T06:27:48Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > That John Canemaker, winner for Best Animated Short Subject, thanked his male “life partner” seemed to get no comment in the media. Does anyone know if any Oscar winner before him ever thanked a same-sex partner during the acceptance speech? I believe Howard Ashman did this over a decade ago (doing music for a Disney movie…Little Mermaid?). ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/84 "2006-03-07T06:36:56Z")
At the Academy Awards presentation in 1992, Bill Lauch accepted the Best Song Award (for the title song in _Beauty and the Beast_) for his late lover, lyricist Howard Ashman, who had died of AIDS. Debra Chasnoff thanked her lesbian “life partner” in her acceptance speech for the award for best documentary film. ---
**Author:** ![Dubious\_Weasle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b782af/32.png) [@Dubious\_Weasle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dubious_Weasle)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/85 "2006-03-07T09:11:42Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > So more than one-fourth of the movies nominated over the past ten years are either about LA (at least in part) or about show business. Seems like navel-gazing to me. I don’t think that the prevalence of movies about show-business does much to demonstrate that the movie industry is ‘navel-gazing’ as much that it shows that the movie industry recognizes that people are fascinated by show-business. If the public wasn’t fascinated by show-business then Actors wouldn’t be celebrities. They’d be Actors. Think of all the tabloids both in print and on TV that center around show-business. They don’t suceed because they are vanity pieces. They suceed because people love to read/watch them. People love to peek peek backstage and see what’s going on behind the curtains of show-business and therefore movies are made that let them do that. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/86 "2006-03-07T15:03:11Z")
To Walloon: Thanks for correcting me about filmaker Leni Riefnstahl. I should have checked my information first before posting, but I appreciate your help. [PS - In movie news on the IDMB today George Lucas says that big-budget blockbusters are dead [http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-03-07/#2](http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-03-07/#2) wow - am I glad Peter Jackson didn’t know that when he made LOTR] ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/87 "2006-03-07T15:13:21Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Did you even see Crash? I am detecting a trend here. More often than not, when someone says they didn’t like “Crash”, it elicits the above response. OK, I get it. You folks that like Crash, really, really, _really_ like Crash. Can we stop with the assuming that people who didn’t like it didn’t see it? And please, dear Og, can we stop this from morphing into “if you didn’t like it you obviously didn’t _get it_”??? Or is that inevitable? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/88 "2006-03-07T15:24:29Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > And please, dear Og, can we stop this from morphing into “if you didn’t like it you obviously didn’t _get it_”??? Or is that inevitable? It’s probably inevitable. 🙂 I will be the first to admit I haven’t seen it yet, but would like to at some time. And I fully expect it to fall into the category of “Movies that were _good_, but I don’t ever want to watch again.” ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/89 "2006-03-07T15:24:48Z")
[Jon Stewart Quotes](http://tvcomedies.about.com/od/triviaquizzes/a/jon_stewart.htm) I caught the Oprah show yesterday and Jon Stewart said hosting his own show actually makes him more nervous. The reason why is that his own audience actually comes to see him, If Jack Nicholson doesn’t laugh at his jokes he’s never going to see him again anyway. I thought that summed it up pretty good. He hosted the Oscars to us, to to the stars. I just love him 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/90 "2006-03-07T16:28:56Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > I am detecting a trend here. More often than not, when someone says they didn’t like “Crash”, it elicits the above response. > > OK, I get it. You folks that like Crash, really, really, _really_ like Crash. Can we stop with the assuming that people who didn’t like it didn’t see it? And please, dear Og, can we stop this from morphing into “if you didn’t like it you obviously didn’t _get it_”??? Or is that inevitable? I saw it; I liked it. I didn’t really really like it. I was just incredulous at including \*Crash \* in any list of movies “about Hollywood”. To call \*Crash \* a “movie about Hollywood” is like saying \*Friends \* is a “TV show about Broadway.” ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/91 "2006-03-07T16:36:29Z")
What the heck was the matter with Joaquin Phoenix? He sat there looking constipated the whole night. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/92 "2006-03-07T16:38:49Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > What the heck was the matter with Joaquin Phoenix? He sat there looking constipated the whole night. I’ve never seen an interview or anything with him, so I just decided that he probably has no sense of humor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/93 "2006-03-07T16:43:14Z")
I do think Hollywood tends to favor movies about show business or Los Angeles or whatever, but I wouldn’t call it back-patting or anything. You just tend to appreciate what you know. It’s the same principle why those of us who work in offices appreciate _Office Space_ and Dilbert. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/94 "2006-03-07T18:03:02Z")
I decided to post this question here rather than open another thread. I figure all of the people who watched the show would be here anyway. On a radio show I was listening to a caller said he thought Tom Hanks seemed pissed at Jon Stewart. He claimed that when he was introduced to present an award he looked over at Stewart and said something that looked like it contained the f-word. The radio hosts said they thought the same thing but didn’t know what he said or why. I must have been looking down at the Dope at the time because I heard Hanks announced but didn’t see him walk out. Anybody else see anything? Maybe it was mentioned somewhere else? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/95 "2006-03-07T18:08:26Z")
Yes, when Tom Hanks came out (near the end of the broadcast) he did indeed say something to Stewart, and (according to my husband) he looked pissed. I saw him mouth or call something, but I didn’t think he looked mad, just focused. Anyone know? And I loved Stewart on the Oprah special. He is such a down to earth guy. Who cares if the stars didn’t “get” him–do they buy all those advertised products? Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/96 "2006-03-07T20:53:02Z")
I heard, on the radio, that Hanks was pissed that the orchestra played the Forrest Gump theme. Now, I didn’t see this, and am assuming the radio news guy was being serious. Anybody hear that? Sir Rhosis ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/97 "2006-03-07T20:54:49Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > I do think Hollywood tends to favor movies about show business or Los Angeles or whatever, but I wouldn’t call it back-patting or anything. You just tend to appreciate what you know. It’s the same principle why those of us who work in offices appreciate _Office Space_ and Dilbert. I’m sure you’re right. I’m sure it’s not a conscious thing at all. Even so, I think Hollywood could stand to be reminded (on a regular basis) that there are interesting stories to be told that do not involve the worlds of Southern California and/or show business, and that maybe before the voters mark their Oscar ballots they should ask themselves whether they are voting for a film because it is genuinely the best, or whether it is just the film to which they most easily relate. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/98 "2006-03-07T21:04:06Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > How about best screenplay? Off the top of my head: The Player, Chinatown, L.A. Confidential > > And let’s talk about best picture nominees from just the past ten years either set in LA (at least in part) or about show business (at least in part): > > Crash; L.A. Confidential; Finding Neverland (in praise of show business); Shakespeare in Love (ditto); The Hours (partially set in LA) Gosford Park (subplot about American movie producer) ; The Aviator; Sideways (one of the main characters is an LA actor); Ray (partially set in LA); Chicago (show business); Moulin Rouge (show business); Traffic (partially set in LA); Seabiscuit (ditto) > > So more than one-fourth of the movies nominated over the past ten years are either about LA (at least in part) or about show business. Seems like navel-gazing to me. You think that a good % of the freaken films in America might just be set in the second largest city? :rolleyes: How many are set in or about NYC? And, adding ; “Finding Neverland (in praise of show business); Shakespeare in Love (ditto); Gosford Park (subplot about American movie producer) ; Chicago (show business); Moulin Rouge (show business);” as 'shows about show business" is absurd. “Sideways (one of the main characters is an LA actor)” has nothing to do about LA. It’s set 200 miles north. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/99 "2006-03-07T21:49:31Z")
My favorite quote of the night from Stewart (paraphrasing): “Coming up - our tribute to montages!” ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263/100 "2006-03-08T01:30:10Z")
This was about the most bland awards show I’ve seen, except for the “pimp” rap winning for best “song” (since when is a rap a song?), which I felt was not bland but outrageous. When anything about a pimp is regarded as culture it seems to me that we’ve reached the end of our cultural rope. As far as I am concerned a pimp is very near the lowest form of life…and rap is very near the lowest form of expression. But that’s just me. Maybe I’m just too old to get it. But maybe the academy is just effing sick. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-rehash-thread/347263.md?page=6)