# The Oscar Telecast: Very Nice Indeed

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 24, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717 "2003-03-24T05:17:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/21 "2003-03-24T13:37:17Z")

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Video clip of more in the Entertainment section of [cnn.com](http://cnn.com)

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**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/22 "2003-03-24T13:38:26Z")

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Dammit, **Moore**.

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/23 "2003-03-24T13:52:40Z")

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I just saw the rerun of Adrien Brody kissing Halle Berry-- and damn she was kissing back!

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/24 "2003-03-24T13:58:21Z")

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I was so glad Renee Zellweger didn’t win. She always has that weird pinched-face look to her. I can’t stand it.

Btw, I think Adrian Brody slipped Halle the tongue. hee hee.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/25 "2003-03-24T14:08:34Z")

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And, oh my Lord, I thought that last night, Jennifer Garner was the most beautiful woman on the face of the earth. Absolutely gorgeous.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/26 "2003-03-24T14:13:56Z")

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I can get the MM clip on BBC’s website, but I would have to subscribe to CNN to see it on their site. Does the CNN clip **not** have a newscaster talking over him? I’d like to review it and figure out the applause/jeer ratio.

(I won’t be back until the afternoon, so please don’t think me ungrateful if you reply and I don’t thank you right away.)

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/27 "2003-03-24T14:32:55Z")

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I missed much of the Oscars for the first time last night. I kept flipping over to CNN.

But I did hear the Moore clip on the radio this morning.

My best guess breakdown of the response:

25% Booing or heckling  
25% Applause  
25% Murmers or Amusement  
25% Silence (yes! I can ACTUALLY _hear_ silence on the radio. I am THAT good!)

So as you can see, based on my HIGHLY scientific analysis, Michael Moore drew an equally mixed reaction. 🙂

Redgrave still has the best “shock” moment.

Taking shots at jews in Hollywood is about as dumb as a country music band taking shots at Republican presidents.

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/28 "2003-03-24T14:51:14Z")

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I was a little bummed last night that [Brad Dexter](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Dexter,+Brad) was omitted during the “In Memoriam” segment. **Three** of _The Magnificient Seven_ died last year. They mentioned Horst Buchholz, and of course they mentioned James Coburn, but no Brad Dexter. Shame. I guess he wasn’t a big enough star.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/29 "2003-03-24T15:00:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tangent \*  
> \*\*Steve Martin was freakin’ hilarious! As usual. But even better than two years ago. I hope they will bring him back again. \*\*

Yes, he was great!  
Loved the inference that Nicholson was gay.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/30 "2003-03-24T15:18:43Z")

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Dang! I missed the Memoriam segment. Who got the biggest applause moments?

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**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/31 "2003-03-24T15:32:26Z")

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> pugluvr, from what I understand, it was a cell phone. It had to do with him saying “gay mafia”, I think. Anyone know more about that?

A stagehand working on a prop above the stage dropped his walkie talkie.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/32 "2003-03-24T15:40:21Z")

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Adding to Moore’s remarks: “When you have the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up.”

Go Michael!

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**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/33 "2003-03-24T15:47:06Z")

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My thoughts on the Oscars:

First of all, Michael Moore is a big idiot. I agree with most of his ideas, but he’s such a loud mouthed, obnoxious, braying ass that I can’t stand to hear him express them. The worst part of that moment was the other nominees he “invited” up there with him. Some of them looked decidedly awkward and I’m wondering how many of them really supported what he was saying? What did he say when he invited them up? Did they know what he was actually going to say?

The whole thing where they introduced all the past acting winners that were there. Who on God’s green Earth thought _that_ was going to be interesting? It was the most boring five and a half days of my life, and it was only about 4 minutes long.

Steve Martin was better than average as host. The thing Oscar hosts is, they all want to be funny and edgy. The problem with that is that you’re trying to be funny and edgy in a room full of people who could seriously damage your career, and they’re the subject of your edginess. It’s a pretty fine line to have to walk.

Why didn’t Renee Zellweger sing her part of the song from Chicago? I’m guessing that she can’t actually sing live and that they pitch corrected her for the film. The real lameness, though, is that they probably only inserted a new song into the film that wasn’t in the stage play to try to win the original song Oscar. There are not any songs missing from the musical, any plot points that cried out to be put to music that weren’t already. It was entirely unnecessary except in the context of winning awards.

Finally, the award recipients. I was getting incredibly cheesed off that they continually gave out the awards to the people who actually deserved them. That leaves me without the necessary fodder for my usual rants about the stupidity of Academy voting practices.

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**Author:** ![Osbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cdc98d/32.png) [@Osbie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osbie)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/34 "2003-03-24T15:49:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*☹ This is a pet peeve of mine: Please do not refer to such awards as photography, editing, sound, or sound effects editing (i.e., the creation of sound effects) as “technical awards”. They are artistic awards. \*\*

Good point **Walloon**. I’ve just always thought of those things as more “technical” because they more obviously involve the use of equipment - cameras, recorders etc. Of course they are artistic.

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/35 "2003-03-24T15:54:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by watsonwil \*  
> \*\*Dang! I missed the Memoriam segment. Who got the biggest applause moments? \*\*

Billy Wilder, John Frankenheimer and Dudley Moore all got big ovations.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/36 "2003-03-24T16:01:28Z")

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Biggest shock moment of the evening: seeing Jack Palance on stage during the winners reunion. I would’ve bet the ranch that he died a long time ago.

But then, I also would’ve sworn that Jack Nicholson won an Oscar for Easy Rider. I have been wrong, on occasion.

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**Author:** ![Miguelon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@Miguelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miguelon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/37 "2003-03-24T16:07:50Z")

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Am I the only one who thought Adrien Brody came off like an arrogant little prick. Everyone cheered his kissing Berry but it looked damn close to an assault to me. I don’t blame him for wanting to kiss Halle, she’s my fantasy too…but if I were her husband I would’ve been stalking Brody for grabbing my wife and kissing her that on nat’l t.v. Seriously, this kid needs to show a little fuckin humility. ‘I bet they didn’t tell you that was in the gift bag’ What a little shit!!! If that was my wife I would’ve kicked his ass before he left the building. And what was up with his crocodile tears about the inhumanity of war and all he learned on this film. I’ll say one thing, the boy can act.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/38 "2003-03-24T16:32:10Z")

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I thought Steve Martin was generally good–sometimes a bit edgy, on the borders of good taste.

Best lines of the night: about Halle Berry’s award last year providing a breakthrough for Incredibly Hot Women everywhere.

And after the In Memoriam: the upcoming film clips of People You Thought Were Dead But Aren’t. Hilarious (see my comment above about Jack Palance).

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/39 "2003-03-24T16:33:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jacquilynne \*  
> **The whole thing where they introduced all the past acting winners that were there. Who on God’s green Earth thought _that_ was going to be interesting?**

Me, and I bet \*_Eve_ too. But I like high school reunions, too.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscar-telecast-very-nice-indeed/163717/40 "2003-03-24T17:16:51Z")

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I liked the Hall of Past Winners, especially the ones who won awards in the 30’s and 40’s. Speaking of them, I thought **Steve Martin** ’s digs at **Mickey Rooney** were funny.

“He was the biggest box office draw in the whole 38 states!”

Also, “This is my second time hosting the Oscars. I was here two years ago and then last year I – how do you say it? – wasn’t asked.”

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