# The Oscars: Halle's shameful scene **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2002, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986 "2002-03-25T11:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kang\_and\_Kodos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8baadc/32.png) [@Kang\_and\_Kodos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kang_and_Kodos)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/1 "2002-03-25T11:12:03Z")
I consider myself a real film buff. I watch everything. Still, I can’t recollect a black actress who would deserve an Oscar for Best Actress before this. Ever. Angela Bassett? Yeah, ok. Halle’s display was embarassing. Like she’s a trailblazer? No. The only reason I will ever remember Halle Berry is because she has the nicest set of naked real boobs I’ve ever seen in a movie. SWORDFISH, for those of you uninitiated. Is it just me, or did she make that speech more for her own egotistical self than for the advancement of her “oppressed” race? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ninevah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/46a35a/32.png) [@ninevah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ninevah)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/2 "2002-03-25T11:30:35Z")
As much as I hate to say it, Halle’s blubbering mess **almost** outrates Gwynnie’s pink hysterical fit… ---
**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/3 "2002-03-25T11:33:34Z")
Oh, hush, you silly neenerhead. I feel so much better now. Anyway, did you see The Color Purple? Carmen Jones? Porgy and Bess? The Josephine Baker Story? Claudine - where Diahann Carroll was the second black woman nominated for best actress by the academy? I could go on, but your post makes it sound as if you just want to be inflammatory. Please educate yourself before saying anything else so stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/73ab20/32.png) [@Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caesar_s_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/4 "2002-03-25T14:11:49Z")
Yes, heaven forbid anybody be happy about winning anything. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/5 "2002-03-25T14:23:45Z")
Besides which, there was already a thread about this. See Vinnie Virginslayer’s thread. How many Oscar thread about the same subject do we need? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/6 "2002-03-25T14:29:22Z")
Yeah, but those ARE Oscar-quality boobs! Actually, I’ve always been pleasantly surprised by Ms Berry’s acting ability, when I can concentrate on it. I haven’t seen the film for which she was nominated, but she has the talent to win. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/7 "2002-03-25T14:29:50Z")
She was overwhelmed. As the First African American Women Ever To Win The Best Actress Oscar, I guess she had every right to be - this was a win that put her in the history books. It would have been so disappointing if she’d been a cold fish about this win. It’s something special to be the first - no one can ever beat you. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/8 "2002-03-25T18:50:25Z")
OK, everyone in these Oscar threads who’s actually won an Academy Award, raise your hand. I thought not. That being said, I really wish Halle had shut up before she thanked her lawyer (twice!). ---
**Author:** ![dirty\_bird18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@dirty\_bird18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirty_bird18)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/9 "2002-03-25T19:45:40Z")
Anybody got a pic of that dress she was wearing? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/10 "2002-03-25T19:53:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dirty\_bird18 \* > \*\*Anybody got a pic of that dress she was wearing? \*\* [http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/24/style.file/](http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/24/style.file/) ---
**Author:** ![dirty\_bird18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@dirty\_bird18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirty_bird18)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/11 "2002-03-25T19:56:14Z")
She looks great, I’ll give her that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/12 "2002-03-25T20:29:39Z")
So, now that we got African-Americans out of the way, who will “win” next year? Benecio Del Toro or Antonio Banderas for Best Actor? Jennifer Lopez or Salma Hayek for Actress? Lucy Liu for Actress? And, ur, er… Can anyone give me an Asian-American actor who’s not a martial arts expert? And blacks complain that they are typecast… At any rate, I hope they win with more grace and dignity than Halle did. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/13 "2002-03-25T21:32:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HubZilla \* > \*\*Can anyone give me an Asian-American actor who’s not a martial arts expert? And blacks complain that they are typecast… \*\* That’s not an easy list to compile at all. None I can think of are household names, but there are two guys whose faces are more-or-less recognizable. [B.D. Wong’s](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Wong,+B.D.) most memorable movie roles have been in _Father of the Bride (1991)_ and _Seven Years in Tibet_. B.D. Wong also appears on HBO’s _OZ_ as a priest – but I have never seen the show. Others can surely elaborate. [Gedde Watanabe](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Watanabe,+Gedde) made a memorable debut as Long Duk Dong in _Sixteen Candles_. His work in the movie _Gung Ho_ is also familar to movie-goers, even if his name is not. I think B.D. Wong especially is capable of a strong, leading, Oscar-worthy role. I guess the right script has never crossed his desk. Still, the Asian-actor Oscar barrier has been at least partially broken – the late [Haing S. Ngor](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0087553) won Best Supporting actor in 1984. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/14 "2002-03-26T01:00:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HubZilla \* > **Can anyone give me an Asian-American actor who’s not a martial arts expert?** There’s some validity to this, but why Asian-_American?_ The Hong Kong actor Tony Leung (the one from Wong Kar-Wai’s _Happy Together_ and _In the Mood for Love_ is as good a screen actor as any working today. And as far as I know, he’s made only rare forays into the martial-arts genre, and even then mostly only in costume. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/15 "2002-03-26T02:21:05Z")
ninevah wrote: > [@](#): > > As much as I hate to say it, Halle’s blubbering mess **almost** outrates Gwynnie’s pink hysterical fit… … not to mention Julia Roberts’ display of the Water Works at **last** year’s Academy Awards. I swear, the Best Actress Oscar has turned into Miss America. ---
**Author:** ![ninevah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/46a35a/32.png) [@ninevah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ninevah)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/16 "2002-03-26T10:37:47Z")
Jokes aside, I’m not quite where I stand in regards to the topic - maybe Halle’s win might have been a bit more meaningful had another african american NOT won the male lead (and I’m not saying that Denzel’s a bad actor), but to have Denzel, Halle and Sidney Poiter recieve an Oscar all on the same night seems to reek of something. I’m not saying they didn’t deserve it, but it almost seems a bit not right. I do, however, think Denzel certainly deserved it, he’s a fine actor regardless of colour, etc, and he certainly was more gracious in receiving it. ---
**Author:** ![kase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@kase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kase)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/17 "2002-03-26T14:43:50Z")
Halle Berry was much more watchable than the awful Gwynneth. At least Halle had a reason to cry. I agree with \*\*Heloïse \*\* It’s far too late to give an oscar now. So many more women deserved one. [still can’t understand the oscar-less “Color Purple”. Though a bit sentimental, very fine women roles there.] ---
**Author:** ![PatrickM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@PatrickM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickM)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/18 "2002-03-26T14:48:10Z")
All I know about Halle Berry I’ve learned on “Entertainment Tonight” and/or the E! channel, and I didn’t watch the Oscars because I hate award shows in general, but she seems like the sort of emotional person that gets “weepy” rather easily. That being the case, I’m inclined to cut her some slack. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/19 "2002-03-27T21:38:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HubZilla \* > Can anyone give me an Asian-American actor who’s not a martial arts expert? And blacks complain that they are typecast… I don’t think George Takei has been typecast as a martial arts anything. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986/20 "2002-03-27T23:25:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\* > I don’t think George Takei has been typecast as a martial arts anything. 😃 \*\* Ah, but you’re forgetting about Sulu’s samurai sword-weilding wig- out in [The Naked Time](http://www.treasure-troves.com/startrek/TheNakedTime.html)…😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-halles-shameful-scene/99986.md?page=2)