# The Oscars—OK, fire away! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 27, 2000, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260 "2000-03-27T15:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/21 "2000-03-28T01:45:00Z")
**The Gay Guy!** says: > [@](#): > > I can never get enough of “Shaft,” :::cough::: ---
**Author:** ![Globe-trotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@Globe-trotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Globe-trotter)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/22 "2000-03-28T02:07:00Z")
Am I the only one who’s sick of seeing Nicholson’s self-satisfied mug? Get over yourself, dude. * * * “I thought: opera, how hard can it be? Songs. Pretty girls dancing. Nice scenery. Lots of people handing over cash. Got to be better than the cut-throat world of yoghurt, I thought.” - Seldom Bucket ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/23 "2000-03-28T03:44:00Z")
(In another thread, I said I wasn’t going to watch the Oscars. I changed my mind.) So, Warren Beatty gets the Thalberg Award…and they show a clip from _Ishtar,_ otherwise known as _Howard the Camel_? Come on. And I know that Billy Crystal made one too many jokes about Isaac Hayes disappearing…but Isaac Hayes _did_ disappear. I was embarassed for the special effects guys. I was glad to see Kevin Spacey win, though. I haven’t seen _American Beauty,_ but Kevin Spacey…well, he turns me on. 🙂 * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/24 "2000-03-28T06:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by GuanoLad: > \*\*I am not a Matrix fan. I saw it, kind of liked it, forgot about it. > > Why did it win the Special Effects Oscar when all its effects were so… crappy? > > Why didn’t Satr Wars win anything this year? > > What a load of codswallop. > > \*\* Well it should have, but this is why i think it didnt. They are biased because Lucas used his own company and most of his own resources to finance the movie, and basically didnt follow traditional moviemaking procedures and did things his own way. so many people were against him for that, and thats probably why it didnt win for best visual effects, which it should have got i think. * * * Check out my site: [Chief’s Domain](http://qfg.tierranet.com) ---
**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/25 "2000-03-28T06:37:00Z")
on a separate note, does anyone else think that Saving Private Ryan should have been picture of the year last year? * * * Check out my site: [Chief’s Domain](http://qfg.tierranet.com) ---
**Author:** ![OliverTwistofLime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b487fb/32.png) [@OliverTwistofLime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OliverTwistofLime)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/26 "2000-03-28T06:49:00Z")
Michael Caine was a class act. He acknowledged his fellow competitors in his category all of whom were superior. Kevin on the other hand was up against a super topnotch competitor…Denzel Washington and said nothing about him. The dresses worn by the actresses run about 5K to 35K but didn’t look that spectacular. And did anyone of you understand what Warren Beatty was saying? * * * Don’t ever say _288_ in polite company. Its just two gross! ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/27 "2000-03-28T07:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > No really hilarious dresses this year, which was a big letdown. What about Faye Dunaway? Hers was pretty awful. Also, I realize that Diane Keaton was presenting about _American Beauty_ but why did she choose that monsterous rose on the front of her dress? Was it just me or did Warren Beatty seem a little stilted in his speaking? It wasn’t a nervous kind of halting or even an emotional one. It was more…I don’t know…“old guy” halting. Probably just me. * * * I always try to do things in chronological order. ---
**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/28 "2000-03-28T07:36:00Z")
OK, so next time I will read **all** of what the previous poster wrote before I comment on something. The good news is, I guess it _isn’t_ just me! * * * I always try to do things in chronological order. ---
**Author:** ![ubermensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bcef8e/32.png) [@ubermensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ubermensch)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/29 "2000-03-28T08:41:00Z")
did anyone else take notice when billy crystal introduced haley joel osment as “a brilliant actor”? this was him intoducing the kid within the first 30 minutes or so… what the hell is that guy smoking? did he just flub a little, and try to recover? the kid has been in a few things, but i’d hardly consider him brilliant… clint howard is a better actor as haley (that’s a girl’s name anyway) but i’d hardly call clint brilliant. what gives? wait…this isn’t the pit is it? whoops… ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/30 "2000-03-28T14:06:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Why didn’t Star Wars win anything this year? Um, 'cause it sucked? IMHO, the effects in SW have been seen before. The Matrix effects hadn’t been. Original technique wins out over BTDT. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/31 "2000-03-28T14:12:00Z")
I think Warren Beatty better sue his plastic surgeon, too—the lower half of his face looks his age, but his eyes were so de-bagged and pulled back they looked like little raisins in a rice pudding. And Faye Dunway, I repeat, looks like a monkey in a wind tunnel. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/32 "2000-03-28T17:09:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **GuanoLad** : > > Why did {“The Matrix”} win the Special Effects Oscar when all its effects were so… crappy? > > Why didn’t Satr Wars win anything this year? Because the effects guys for “Matrix” perfected and improved upon a special effect technique, and Lucas bilged out more CGI crap that’s been done a hundred times over by now. And for Jar-Jar alone, he deserved not only to not win anything, but to have all his nominations withdrawn. 🙂 Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/33 "2000-03-28T17:11:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **Otto** : > > **The Gay Guy!** says: > I can never get enough of “Shaft,” > > :::cough::: Oh, boo hoo, ya perv! 😃 You’d do Isaac Hayes and you know it! 😛 Esprix, who is starting to sing like Barry White * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/34 "2000-03-28T17:51:00Z")
I am always interested in the awards-show fashions. “Fashion shows” don’t interest me, because they are just designer fantasies on stick-insects. At the awards shows, you get to see what real human beings are willing to wear, and what they think looks good. Of course, most of those “real human beings” have close-to-perfect bodies, but they are not necessarily built like runway models. Also, there are a fair number of not-so-perfect bodies at awards affairs. It is nice to see what they wear. I did not watch the Oscars, but I did look at the fashion reports in 3 papers the hext day. (I eagerly await Joan Rivers’ round-up show. I don’t always agree with what she says, but you can count on her to show clips of the best, worst, and most interesting clothes.) My preliminary observations: 1. I am sick of the huge gaping plunging necklines that show that boobs-spread-apart cleavage. –After Jennifer Lopez took it to the extreme in that green Versace, anything else just looks redundant. (Example: Chloe Sevigny) –Nobody looks as good in that style as Jennifer Lopez. In comparison, everybody else’s boobs look either too droopy or too small or too obviously fake. (Salma Hayek) –Actually, even Jennifer Lopez didn’t really look good, because it is an basically unflattering style. And the dress-part of the green dress (as opposed to the naked-Jennifer-Lopez part) was ugly. I swear, that is the only woman in the world who can manage to look sleazy and dowdy at the same time. 2. The stars need to be more careful about their hair. –The wild un-combed look is awful when paired with formal-wear. (Drew Barrymore) –If the star is wearing her hair down, she should not wear an elaborate necklace. She ends up looking cluttered. (Heather Graham) –Hair should only be worn down if it is very, very good hair. (Lucy Liu has good hair) For the record, the dresses I liked were worn by: Lucy Liu: a red. beaded Versace one-shoulder dress. Wow. And I don’t even like red. Ashley Judd: pretty purple Valentino Erykah Badu: Lime green leather pieces laced together with raffia and a head-wrap. Sounds awful, but on her, it was stunning. Heather Graham: The dress was gorgeous. She should have lost the necklace, though. Queen Latifah: Beautiful. Great jewelry, too. Trey and Matt: Matt filled out the dress better than Gwynnie. The same can NOT be said for Trey–see above. There. That’s my 4 cents. Feel free to tell me I have awful taste. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/35 "2000-03-28T17:54:00Z")
You have awful taste. ---
**Author:** ![ThisYearsGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@ThisYearsGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisYearsGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/36 "2000-03-29T06:08:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by chief: > \*\*on a separate note, does anyone else think that Saving Private Ryan should have been picture of the year last year? > \*\* Hell yeah! In fact, all the movie deserved to win over “Shakespeare.” The thing was (I’ve been trying to figure out a way to say this for a year now), when you (I) walked out of all the other movies nominated (Elizabeth, Thin Red Line, Life is Beautiful) all you (I) wanted to do was talk about those movie; I couldn’t stop thinking about them. But with Shakespeare. . . I liked it, but when I left the theater, I was thinking “That movie was nice, I liked the acting. . . hey look! Star Wars poster!!” * * * “I was born in this town, I was raised in this town, and I’ll probably die in this town. Hell, I’ve already been hit by a car on this street, twice!”–if you recognize where this quote is from or who said it, please tell me. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/37 "2000-03-28T19:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by evilbeth: > \*\* Was it just me or did Warren Beatty seem a little stilted in his speaking? It wasn’t a nervous kind of halting or even an emotional one. It was more…I don’t know…“old guy” halting. Probably just me. > > \*\* That’s just how he talks. He’s been hard to listen too for going on 40 some years now. Even when he was a teenager he talked like an old man, and has always had that semi-annoying pause where he lifts his head up slightly and then drops it down again as he starts to talk. It’s like his trademark or something. > [@](#): > > So, Warren Beatty gets the Thalberg Award…and they show a clip from Ishtar, otherwise known as Howard the Camel? Come on. _Ishtar_ actually has a large cult following. I like it myself, it’s a funny movie. Not sure why it never caught on. * * * Adrock, light up the place And if you pull my card you pull the ace And if you ask me turn up the bass And if you play Defender I could be your hyperspace ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/38 "2000-03-28T19:31:00Z")
Whoops! Would you like to buy an “o”? I have an extra in that post. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/39 "2000-03-29T00:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > You’d do Isaac Hayes and you know it! Not a chance. Ew. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260/40 "2000-03-29T03:01:00Z")
> [@](#): > > IMHO, the effects in SW have been seen before. The Matrix effects hadn’t been. Original technique wins out over BTDT Well, that’s my point, because you’re a hundred per cent wrong in that. The SW effects used and perfected techniques never used before in almost every situation. The Matrix just used video trickery we’ve seen in every ad from here to Kingdom Come. ## But then, I really didn’t care for the movie. [The Legend Of PigeonMan](http://www.hotkey.net.au/~guanolad/pigeonman/) - **Shadow of the Pigeon** - Weirdo of the Night [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-oscars-ok-fire-away/15260.md?page=1)