# The other family members "of Soul"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 17, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810 "2018-08-17T21:13:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/1 "2018-08-17T21:13:02Z")

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Ray Charles was the “Father of Soul.”

Aretha Franklin was the “Queen of Soul.”

James Brown was the “Godfather of Soul.”

Who are the other members of the “Soul” family?

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/2 "2018-08-17T21:28:47Z")

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Isaac Hayes was the “Black Moses of Soul”

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/3 "2018-08-17T22:42:26Z")

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George Clinton is the “Weird Second Uncle of Soul”

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/4 "2018-08-17T22:45:42Z")

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Bob Marley was the “Hard-Tokin’ First Cousin Twice-Removed of Soul.”

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/5 "2018-08-17T22:46:45Z")

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The Beatles were the “Rubber Soul.”

I’m goin’, I’m goin’!

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/6 "2018-08-17T23:41:58Z")

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Hall & Oates were “blue-eyed soul”.

Ruby Wilson was “The Queen of Beale Street”.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/7 "2018-08-17T23:56:59Z")

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Gladys Knight is the Empress of Soul.

William Robinson is the “Smoke” of Soul.

Marvin Gaye was the Prince of Soul.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/8 "2018-08-17T23:59:24Z")

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The Ramones (among others) only had a [Little Bit O’ Soul](https://youtu.be/1WVYMAuMYSA)

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/9 "2018-08-18T00:44:16Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Hall & Oates were “blue-eyed soul”.

One could argue the Righteous Brothers were blue-eyed soul before Hall and Oates.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/10 "2018-08-18T00:54:22Z")

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James Brown may have been “The Godfather of Soul”, but he was also “Soul Brother Number One”. Having to fulfill both roles doubtless led to his other sobriquet “The hardest working man in show business”.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/11 "2018-08-18T03:28:28Z")

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Sam Cooke was “the inventor of soul” according to one rock critic.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/12 "2018-08-18T14:07:48Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> One could argue the Righteous Brothers were blue-eyed soul before Hall and Oates.

And correctly so. Had a brain fart on that one.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/13 "2018-08-18T16:03:37Z")

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Both Sam and Dave (and Jake & Elwood) were a “soul man.”

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/14 "2018-08-18T16:24:56Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> James Brown may have been “The Godfather of Soul”, but he was also “Soul Brother Number One”. Having to fulfill both roles doubtless led to his other sobriquet “The hardest working man in show business”.

When I was small I heard of Sammy Davis Jr being soul brother #5. But I haven’t ever found a list or a record of this. I imagined Otis Redding as #2.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/15 "2018-08-18T16:28:13Z")

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Dr. Scholls is a “sole man”

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/16 "2018-08-18T16:29:30Z")

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[Don Cornelius](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cornelius) was the host of “Soul Train” - does that count?

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/17 "2018-08-18T16:36:44Z")

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Isn’t there a band called “the Soul Sisters”?

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/18 "2018-08-18T16:53:54Z")

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Adele - British Queen of Soul  
Ashanti - Princess of Hip Hop and Soul  
Erykah Badu - Queen of Neo-Soul  
Mary J. Blige - Empress of Soul  
James Brown - Godfather of Soul  
Solomon Burke - King of Rock ‘n’ Soul  
Ray Charles - High Priest of Soul  
Marvin Gaye - Prince of Soul  
Whitney Houston - Prom Queen of Soul  
R. Kelly - King of Pop-Soul  
Gladys Knight - Empress of Soul  
Patti LaBelle - Godmother of Soul  
Otis Redding - King of Soul

Source: [Honorific nicknames in popular music - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific_nicknames_in_popular_music)

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/19 "2018-08-18T19:18:38Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Adele - British Queen of Soul  
> Ashanti - Princess of Hip Hop and Soul  
> Erykah Badu - Queen of Neo-Soul  
> Mary J. Blige - Empress of Soul  
> James Brown - Godfather of Soul  
> Solomon Burke - King of Rock ‘n’ Soul  
> Ray Charles - High Priest of Soul  
> Marvin Gaye - Prince of Soul  
> Whitney Houston - Prom Queen of Soul  
> R. Kelly - King of Pop-Soul  
> Gladys Knight - Empress of Soul  
> Patti LaBelle - Godmother of Soul  
> Otis Redding - King of Soul
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> Source: [Honorific nicknames in popular music - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific_nicknames_in_popular_music)

I’ve heard some people refer to R. Kelly as the Pied Piper of Soul.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-other-family-members-of-soul/819810/20 "2018-08-18T19:54:40Z")

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[Wayne Cochran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Cochran) was called the “White Knight of Soul.” He had a pretty substantial following in the South, and he’s also notable for his band, the CC Riders, which was where Jaco Pastorius got his start, first as the bassist and then as a musical director and arranger for the whole band, before breaking into the jazz scene.

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