# The Outsider on HBO: Yet Another Stephen King Adaption **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 15, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443 "2020-01-15T05:32:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/41 "2020-03-09T22:53:13Z")
Well, that is how the book ended–Holly hit him in the head with a sock filled with ball bearings, all his bugs fell out, he died. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/42 "2020-03-09T22:56:49Z")
In the series, Claude shot him, a stalactite impaled him, and Ralph crushed his skull with a rock. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/43 "2020-03-09T23:33:27Z")
Yeah, in the book it really was was as anticlimactic as I said. She hit him twice, his head caved in, the worms that he was made of poured out, the worms shriveled up and died. He didn’t even say “My bugs! My bugs!” (In the book, Ralph kept bringing up how weird it was, when he was a kid, he cut open a cantelope and it was full of worms. This turned out to be either “foreshadowing” or “telegraphing.”) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/44 "2020-03-09T23:36:56Z")
I wonder how many people were surprised by the Aussie and British accents of the lead actors in the discussion after the end . I knew their backgrounds so it did not surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/45 "2020-03-10T04:04:44Z")
So does anybody have a good explanation for the stinger in the credits, in which she sees Jack again, and reveals that she has a scratch on her arm? ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/46 "2020-03-10T05:31:00Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > So does anybody have a good explanation for the stinger in the credits, in which she sees Jack again, and reveals that she has a scratch on her arm? Season 2? ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/47 "2020-03-10T17:23:26Z")
I thought, for sure, that the cave was going to collapsed on the Cuco or whatever its called, sealing it in for eternity. Or fracking. Wrong, again. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/48 "2020-03-10T17:24:27Z")
I thought, for sure, that the cave was going to collapsed on Cuco or whatever its called, sealing it in for eternity. Or fracking. Wrong, again. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/49 "2020-03-10T17:40:21Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > [The Outsider (TV Series 2020) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8550800/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt) > > This is an adaption of the unofficial 4th book of the Bill Hodges trilogy. Its a murder mystery with a very unusual twist. > > While the first couple of episodes are atmospheric and well made, the acting is so low key as to make the story much less powerful than the book. Its as if someone spiked the coffee with anti-depressants. Jason Bateman is awesome. Ben Mendelssohn is a sleepwalking bore playing a key role in the story. Bill Camp is outraged and passionate as Batemans lawyer. > > Not going to spoil anything but this is a show worth a watch (cavaet I have only seen the first 2 epis because HBO just wont release entire series.) Im hoping it gets better.l I’m going to check it out! Who the hell wrote the synopsis on the IMDB page!? “Investigators are confounded over an unspeakable crime that’s been committed.” Thank you, Obi Wan! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/50 "2020-03-10T22:03:51Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > So does anybody have a good explanation for the stinger in the credits, in which she sees Jack again, and reveals that she has a scratch on her arm? > [@Infovore](#): > > Season 2? Sure, Season 2. But was it justified? Did the monster have any actual chance to scratch her? (If so I don’t recall that being shown.) As a non-reader of the book, I’d say the ending was handled well, but that I wish it had been less predictable. It was clear that the protagonist-who-is-lonely-but-meets-someone-who-loves-her would wind up alone again because of course the monster would kill the lover. I had been hoping that that cliché would be avoided, but it wasn’t. The series overall: tremendously impressive production. I’d recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/51 "2020-03-10T22:13:39Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sure, Season 2. But was it justified? Did the monster have any actual chance to scratch her? (If so I don’t recall that being shown.). They played the same song that she and Jack were listening to in an earlier episode. I think the suggestion is that Jack (under Cuco’s influence) scratched her. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443/52 "2020-03-10T23:05:12Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > They played the same song that she and Jack were listening to in an earlier episode. I think the suggestion is that Jack (under Cuco’s influence) scratched her. Hm. Seems like a change in the “rules” (as it had been Cuco, not the ‘helpers,’ doing the scratching for all previous cases). But if audiences accept it, I guess, anything goes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-outsider-on-hbo-yet-another-stephen-king-adaption/846443.md?page=2)