# The overdue pitting of Emeril and his like

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 29, 2004, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057 "2004-12-29T04:54:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/161 "2005-01-01T07:31:22Z")

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> [@that\_darn\_cat](#):
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> I really miss Too Hot Tamales, I don’t remeber the two ladies names, but they made some really tasty looking Southwestern treats.

That would be Susan Feniger and Mary Sue Milliken. (Do I win?) My wife and I used to like watching their show, too. I’d like to see some reruns sometime.

Another fan of Alton Brown and Rachael Ray here. Alton delivers the nuts and bolts approach to cooking which works well for me. (Rachael does sort of the same thing, but I’m usually too mesmerized watching her to notice what she’s actually making. Thankfully all of her recipes end up on her Food TV web site.) Anyway, my wife bought me a Wusthof Santoku knife for Christmas because I’ve always pointed out that Rachael Ray uses one to prepare almost everything. Seems to be a really versatile knife. I’ve only cut potatoes with it so far, but it did an excellent job.

I used to like watching “The Essence of Emeril”, but the cultlike following of his audience on the “Emeril Live” show has completely put me off of watching anything else that he does. (I’d still like to visit one of his restaurants sometime.)

Finally, and I can’t stress this enough, Bobby Flay really comes across like an insufferable asshole. He reminds me of Bob Vila somehow. Maybe it’s the way that he seems to steamroll over the chefs and other guests on his shows.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/162 "2005-01-01T12:46:42Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Is your band the Decepticonz, by any chance?

No, sir. Check out my sig for more info… 🆒

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/163 "2005-01-01T12:55:49Z")

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…on further review, The Decepticonz had two members that are now the guitar/vocals for The Five Maseratis, which my bassist is also a member of…

small world.

_This hijack broght to you by the Rock Family Tree Society_

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/164 "2005-01-01T17:28:58Z")

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OK, cool. I asked because another former member of the Decepticonz, Jorge, is now in the Pietasters. I will check out your band, though!

Sorry about the hijack, folks!

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/165 "2005-01-02T00:51:28Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Bobby Flay–one more vote for him being an ass, but I have to admit, the man’s food always looks amazing. I love that funky trendy Southwestern cuisine, spicy being mixed with sweet and all that.

His food may look amazing, but it does not always taste that way. He had a recipe for ribs done with [a peanut butter sauce](http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_6630,00.html) Watched the show, copied the recipe, and verified it with a printed copy from food TV. Followed the recipe exactly  
Shit absolute shit. I threw out almost 2 whole racks of ribs. To a guy who likes Q this is a crime. I am firmly convinced that I can out cook Bobby Flay when it comes to BBQ, any time anywhere.

Alton is a god, no doubt about.

My wife and I are both convinced that Rachael Ray was a cheerleader in high school. I don’t mind her saying EVOO, if that was all she said. But the actual quote is “EVOO that’s extravirginoliveoil” This is for sure longer than Extra Virgin Olive Oil.

I like Emeril, and don’t for the most part mind his bit. As far as lack of measurments go, this used to bug me, and I mentioned it to a chef friend of mine. his comment was that Emeril was showing people that it is OK not to measure to the exact gram most things. (baking excepted) If you want to get the exact numbers, check [Foodtv.com](http://Foodtv.com) for the exact recipe.

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**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/166 "2005-01-02T07:17:40Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> Well, the thing you have to keep in mind when watching Paula Dean is that she’s completely insane.

[Clearly.](http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_27632,00.html)

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/167 "2005-01-02T11:24:07Z")

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I’m not sure which is worse - Butthead Flay’s putrid melding of chiles, soy, honey, peanut butter, and Worcestershire, or Paula Dean’s bizzare mix of fruits, nuts, and _bacon?!_ The first is sadly misguided to an unfortunate end, but the second is just fuckin’ weird.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/168 "2005-01-02T17:09:51Z")

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We get Food Network _Canada_, so it’s a slightly different lineup, I think. I heartily approve of Alton Brown–I watched a whole half hour on beets, mesmerised. Beets. Beets, of all things! Beets, I tell you.

That’s good t.v.

As for Nigella. I am a nice married lady, and she makes me think thoughts that are quite sinful. She is incredibly sensuous and attractive, and oh, yes, the food looks okay, too.

We get the [Surreal Gourmet](http://www.surrealgourmet.com/) who is interesting. And I watched four episodes in a row of [Ramsay’s Kitchen Nightmares](http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/home_living/ramsays_kitchen_nightmares/ramsays_kitchen_nightmares.jsp) last night. (I wasn’t feeling well and didn’t want to move from the couch.)

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/169 "2005-01-02T22:48:47Z")

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> [@MidnightRadio](#):
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> [Clearly.](http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_27632,00.html)

Not sure what part qualifies this as insane. I’ve been occasionally adding bacon to salads for years. I haven’t thied this one, but I’d be willing to.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/170 "2005-01-02T22:50:00Z")

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damn lack of edit feature…  
should be tried, not thied

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/171 "2005-01-02T23:44:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’m not sure which is worse - Butthead Flay’s putrid melding of chiles, soy, honey, peanut butter, and Worcestershire, or Paula Dean’s bizzare mix of fruits, nuts, and bacon?! The first is sadly misguided to an unfortunate end, but the second is just fuckin’ weird.

I make a Peanut Sauce for chicken wings that contains almost exactly that list of ingredients, and it is damn fine. Always a hit at parties. Don’t know how much I’d like it on ribs, though.

The salad also sounds good to me; I like fruity and salty together, especially since I discovered proscuitto e melone in Italy.

On a related note, this weekend I saw some previews of the new Iron Chef America, and saw that Rick Bayless is going to be a challenger. I can only assume that he’ll be up against Bobby Flay, which should be a blast to watch.

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**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/172 "2005-01-03T00:46:56Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> Not sure what part qualifies this as insane. I’ve been occasionally adding bacon to salads for years. I haven’t tried this one, but I’d be willing to.

> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> The salad also sounds good to me; I like fruity and salty together, especially since I discovered proscuitto e melone in Italy.

There’s nothing wrong with adding bacon to salads. And I like proscuitto-wrapped melon, too. It’s the combination of bananas, bacon, and mayonnaise that makes me ill. But even if you took the bananas (the worst part) out, it’s still a little too midwest-church-supper-y for me.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/173 "2005-01-03T03:13:43Z")

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> [@dwyr](#):
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> The chocolate likely doesn’t come in any smaller size. My brother works as a food broker and the smallest size of Callebaut that he supplies to restaurants is an eleven pound brick. [sup]\*[/sup] …  
> \*And it’s damned tasty.

Would you believe, Bernard Callebault was an insurance man for a long time? We’re very happy he changed careers. Calgary is very proud to have him.

> [@shamrock227](#):
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> ::sneaks up behind **TellMeI’mNotCrazy** and whacks her in the back of the head with a heat resistant silicone spatula::

Oh hell - YOU back off, or I’m gonna whack you with my ravioli ironing board! 😉

Bobby Flay wants a killin’ and I’ve never, ever seen Emeril make anything I would put into my mouth.

**moi** & **that\_darn\_cat** : Alton will be in town 01/18 at the White Marsh Barnes & Noble. Care to join us?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/174 "2005-01-03T06:01:48Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> I’ve never seen Nigella Lawson’s show because she’s on some channel we don’t get, but she looks like a goddess.

Nigella _is_ a goddess. Y’all can have your annoying and ever-so-slightly-awkward Rachel Rays. (That Maxim spread of hers is awful, IMHO). Nigella’s mine.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/175 "2005-01-03T15:06:46Z")

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> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#):
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> I’ve never, ever seen Emeril make anything I would put into my mouth.

Then you don’t watch enough Emeril, although I can understand, as _Emeril! Live_ can be grating. For Christmas, I made his Prime Rib from _Essence of Emeril_ (much more laid back), and plan to make the Cheesy Popovers very, very soon.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/176 "2005-01-03T17:10:22Z")

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> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#):
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> Oh hell - YOU back off, or I’m gonna whack you with my ravioli ironing board! 😉

You’re gonna remove the pasta maker thingy first, right? 'cause that would hurt.

Ahem. I mean…

Oh, _Yeah_? Well, I have a 12 quart anodized aluminum stock pot - and it’s loaded!

> [@](#):
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> **moi** & **that\_darn\_cat** : Alton will be in town 01/18 at the White Marsh Barnes & Noble. Care to join us?

Will you give him a great big kiss from me? 😃

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/177 "2005-01-03T18:58:19Z")

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> [@shamrock227](#):
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> You’re gonna remove the pasta maker thingy first, right? 'cause that would hurt.
> 
> Ahem. I mean…
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> Oh, _Yeah_? Well, I have a 12 quart anodized aluminum stock pot - and it’s loaded!
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> Will you give him a great big kiss from me? 😃

Don’t start with me. I’ve got a brand new set of Calphalon that will fuck your shit up. Er. Yeah, Alton’s married with family - maybe we should be nice.

I will probably not kiss the guy, but I will get him to sign my books. As we’ve got I’m Just Here For The Food and I’m Just Here For More Food, we’ll likely pick up Gear For Your Kitchen. 'Cause, you know, I need more crap in my teeny kitchen.

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**Author:** ![Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonzo_John_Blitz)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-overdue-pitting-of-emeril-and-his-like/282057/178 "2005-01-04T04:07:21Z")

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Well. This is interesting. My first post and over 175 responses with less than 20 referring back to Rachael Ray’s hand down her pants. I am both honored and disappointed.

For a moment may we consider this: Cannibal TV.

No, wait. I’m serious. Famous TV cooks contemplate each others’ physiognomies - the cuts, the ratio of fat to muscle (marbling), braising vs. roasting, etc. Then the cook-off begins! With a cleaver chase, of course.

For some reason I have an image of Jamie Oliver pushing a lawn mower in hot persuit of Ina Garten … Alton Brown downing Emeril with a boning knife … Another notch!

The Galloping Gourmet slathered in butter, rubbed with rosemary … an Anjou pear in the mouth … mmmm …

Oh, the simple things!

Wine suggestions?

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