# The :p smiley is crap **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 19, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967 "2003-12-19T14:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/1 "2003-12-19T14:28:05Z")
😛 It doesn’t look like someone sticking their tongue out. It looks like someone smirking, because the tongue is too short and doesn’t have the distinctive cartoony dividing line in it. 😛 I suggest we update it. I’ll volunteer to do it if ye’ll let me. 😛 All those in favour say “aye”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabba)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/2 "2003-12-19T15:06:02Z")
I agree. Someone ( **Una** , I think) used it in a reply to me, and I had to go to the reply screen to check what emotion was being conveyed. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/3 "2003-12-19T15:46:15Z")
I also agree. Looks too much like a goofy grin. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/4 "2003-12-19T17:33:55Z")
It needs some scowling eyebrows: \*\* \ /\*\* instead of goofy eyebrows \*_/ \*_ ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/5 "2003-12-19T19:05:45Z")
Aye. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/6 "2003-12-19T20:02:10Z")
The tongue should be off to the side, just like the emoticon suggests. This would make it easier to discern: 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/7 "2003-12-19T23:00:23Z")
And why do we have a blowjob smiley :o for embarrassment? 🙂 & 😉 are way too similar in appearance. I like these two: ;j :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/8 "2003-12-20T00:27:35Z")
:eek: You mean you want us to have to learn MORE smilies? I have enough trouble keeping them straight as it is. :smack: And I haven’t even used :wally yet. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/9 "2003-12-20T00:31:31Z")
And what is wrong with a goofy grin 😛 smilie? It’s different, to me, anyway, than the big grin/laughing smilie 😃 But a sticking out tongue smilie that was more like the Rolling Stones’ logo – yeh, that could be fun. I’d vote for keeping 😛 in the menagerie, though. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/10 "2003-12-20T02:34:03Z")
The smackie smilie and Mr. Dubious are contributions by SDMB participants. I will note that :smack: substitutes well for :o and :dubious: substitutes for :rolleyes: . I myself have a proposed icon that substitutes for Mr. Winky, whom I find a little corny. I call it, “:bemused:” I would recommend that designers of these icons keep in mind that their ultimate purpose is to soften the written word, and not agitate the reader. IMHO of course. In the past, Arnold has run contests for new SDMB smilies. Let’s have another! Hm. While we’re at it, we could have a retirement contest. Maybe :o could be given a dignified burial. {Or perhaps not: retiring it might make the interpretation of previous threads slightly onerous.} ---
**Author:** ![Chavardz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Chavardz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavardz)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/11 "2003-12-20T03:28:12Z")
aye ---
**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/12 "2003-12-20T12:20:31Z")
Change Mr 😛 ??? I’ve used him many a time… but I do admit he looks a tad more friendly than when I use 😛 in e-mail and such. OTOH, it would subtly change the meanings of all previous posts should he change! ---
**Author:** ![aerodave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f08c70/32.png) [@aerodave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aerodave)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/13 "2003-12-20T16:49:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fear Itself \* > **It needs some scowling eyebrows: \*\* \ /** > > instead of goofy eyebrows \*_/ \*_ \*\* A green scowling face with the tongue out would bear too much resemblance to [Mr. Yuk](http://www.chp.edu/mryuk/05a_mryuk.php) ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/14 "2003-12-20T17:55:14Z")
I agree. And for all those worried about having too many smileys, I suggest we make a ritual sacrifice of the rolleyes one. Lor’ how I loathe that refuge of the bitter-but-too-thick-to-be-snarky, especially when it compromises the entire post. But yeah, I can visualise what **jjimm** has in mind with the classic cartoony tongue. It’d be much better. ---
**Author:** ![Ye\_Who\_Runs\_Rampit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/848f3c/32.png) [@Ye\_Who\_Runs\_Rampit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ye_Who_Runs_Rampit)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/15 "2003-12-20T21:22:24Z")
😛 \<— Looks like he’s having a little too much fun. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/16 "2003-12-21T01:45:23Z")
**TheLoadedDog** : :rolleyes: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/17 "2003-12-21T01:47:35Z")
Oh, and “one picture is worth a thousand words”. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/18 "2003-12-21T13:38:24Z")
The problem is that in color coding the smileys (blue, green, etc…), the coloring is way too dark. The black lines on dark colors just doesn’t show up. More contrast is needed and is easy to do simply by lightening up the colors. Oh, pastels, won’t you save our smileys? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/19 "2003-12-21T17:19:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rowrrbazzle \* > \*\ ***TheLoadedDog** : :rolleyes: > > 😃 \*\* :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/20 "2003-12-21T17:51:18Z")
mr tongue stickie-outie is ok. 😛 mr blowjob is erm… :o how do one use mr cool? and mr spiderman? mr putz just messes up the spacing. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967.md?page=2)