# The :p smiley is crap

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967>\
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**Created:** [December 19, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967 "2003-12-19T14:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/21 "2003-12-21T18:01:12Z")

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:rolleyes: 😛

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**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/22 "2003-12-21T20:19:33Z")

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Aye. Change it. The tongue should be longer and off to one side.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/23 "2003-12-21T22:29:50Z")

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I like 😛 . It’s got a cheerful understated impertinence to it. There should be no need for tongue-envy when it comes to emoticons. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/24 "2003-12-21T22:35:33Z")

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Hey, now. How do we know it’s _Mister_ Blowjob, eh?  
[sub]\*standing up for heteros everywhere since 1867[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/25 "2003-12-21T22:56:28Z")

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We don’t. And if we just called it Blowjob, that’d sound like an Ian Fleming character.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/26 "2003-12-21T23:14:00Z")

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Mr tongue stickie-outie needs to have angry eyes: **\>:^p**

All smilies should be yellow.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/27 "2003-12-21T23:53:54Z")

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Naaah, it needs Eric Cartman screwed up eyes. Greater than and less than sybols with a horizontal line.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/28 "2003-12-22T09:00:19Z")

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_tries to spill drink on keyboard but chokes instead_

**dantheman**!

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/29 "2003-12-22T10:43:38Z")

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What? What me do? Just doin’ me duty.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/30 "2003-12-22T10:48:33Z")

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A couple of prototypes:

[Eye shape 1](http://www.crowaptok.com/images/smiley_tongue1.gif), [eye shape 2](http://www.crowaptok.com/images/smiley_tongue2.gif).

Opinions?

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**Author:** ![Dragon\_Phoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Dragon\_Phoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragon_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/31 "2003-12-22T10:54:06Z")

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Normally I would not care, but on behalf of the colour blind poulation here (which is usually a green/red disfunction): please do not give this smilie with its red tongue a green face. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/32 "2003-12-22T11:04:04Z")

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Good point. I can easily change the colour of the smiley - what colour would you like?

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/33 "2003-12-22T12:20:15Z")

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I agree that it should be changed

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/34 "2003-12-23T01:17:43Z")

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Yellow, always yellow.

Having the tongue hang out the side of the mouth makes him look like he has an upset tummy. I think the central tongue position is best.

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/35 "2003-12-23T01:26:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*Good point. I can easily change the colour of the smiley - what colour would you like? \*\*

Well, according to the [Visibone Color blind color chart](http://www.visibone.com/colorblind/), most color blind people only see shades of yellow-orange and faded blue (from bright and intense to dark and washed out).

And so, you can use those two colors which will mean that (almost) everyone sees them exactly the same, i.e., yellow-orange and faded blue. You can experiment to see which looks best as face v. tongue. Though, I think a light yellow-orange face will show off the black lines and dark faded blue tongue best.

Or, you can use colors which to the color sighted look like an olive face with hot purple/fuscia tongue, but to the color blind will look like yellow-orange and faded blue.

Either way, as I’ve mentioned before, whatever colors you use, there needs to be high contrast. Don’t put dark on dark or light on light.

The [Visibone color lab](http://www.visibone.com/colorlab/big.html) allows you to click on the colors and see how they look against each other.

Peace.

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**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/36 "2003-12-23T03:21:47Z")

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I think the ":-P"smiley from Yahoo IM is just about perfect. If you added the eyes from your example #2, I think it’d be on the spot. Not that my opinion is worth much.

😛

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/37 "2003-12-23T20:53:12Z")

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Hell, I like the smirking little smilie - it has a smug, superior attitude which I often use in my posts (since I, of course, post in a smug, superior fashion - see 😛 )

Get your own unique encoding for … what are we planning to express with the new emoticon away? Disgust, Frustration, Distaste, Laughing at someone else? Maybe :Xp or something.

'Course, we could be like f\*\*\*[edcompany.com](http://edcompany.com), with hundreds of emoticons ranging from - gross and obscene - to - gross and obscene (and 🍌, :spaz:, and :frontloader: - OK, those 3 are cool).

😛 - you can just feel the swarminess\* in it’s face.

BTW, just WHO thought this one :o was a good idea anyway?

\*Oddly, swarmy doesn’t seem to be an actual word, although it appears in thousands of places. Perhaps they do not yet realize smarmy has been completely superseded, the fools…

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-p-smiley-is-crap/219967/38 "2003-12-24T05:11:35Z")

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I like the 😛 smiley from MSN Messenger… it’s very cool. If we could replace 😛 with that, I’d be satisfied. 😃

**leechbabe** [once told me that 😛 looked like a lesbian erection](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127371&highlight=lesbian+erection).

F\_X

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