# The Panthers are undefeated

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 23, 2002, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251 "2002-09-23T11:23:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/1 "2002-09-23T11:23:33Z")

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:eek:

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**Author:** ![TelcontarStorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TelcontarStorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TelcontarStorm)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/2 "2002-09-23T12:33:46Z")

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now that they are _out_ of the NFC West, they are free to win as many as they please. (now, if we could just get rid of St.Louis…grrrrrrr)

All seriousness aside, I find it firiggin’ hilarious that they do it with a damn near 40 yr old cast off from the Detroit Lions. I guess it just goes to show,some sick cats come back.

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**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/3 "2002-09-23T12:38:25Z")

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In other news, cats sleep with dogs, Cheney’s location is disclosed, and **december** registers Democrat.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/4 "2002-09-23T12:53:02Z")

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And **Libertarian** becomes a proponent of socialism. 😃

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/5 "2002-09-23T13:42:59Z")

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From each according to his ability, to me! 😃

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/6 "2002-09-23T14:15:38Z")

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Yay! Go NBPP!

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**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/7 "2002-09-23T16:58:15Z")

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So are the Chargers…for now.

from [NFL.com](http://NFL.com): San Diego started 3-0 last season, but finished 5-11.

Thanks for reminding me…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/8 "2002-09-23T17:30:59Z")

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Ah, but the Panthers are now _guaranteed_ to finish better than last year. They won only one game.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/9 "2002-09-23T22:13:43Z")

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Hey! Let’s not forget the 3-0 New Orleans Saints.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/10 "2002-09-24T01:06:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by **UncleBeer** \*  
> Hey! Let’s not forget the 3-0 New Orleans Saints.

And they actually played some real football teams (to say the least)…  
But let’s not forget the best 3-0 team in the AFC, the Miami Dolphins! Run Ricky Run!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/11 "2002-09-24T09:48:18Z")

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Is everybody sure we haven’t skided over into the bizarro universe?

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**Author:** ![TelcontarStorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TelcontarStorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TelcontarStorm)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/12 "2002-09-24T13:07:57Z")

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No Lib. We have not. There are certain clues which will give away this. Mainly, that the Detroit Loins are winless. Add that the Jets can’t seem to get it up, and APU, the Vickings sit in the pit of mediocracy.  
But, then again, the Rams are winless (cover me in fudge!)This is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/13 "2002-09-24T18:09:44Z")

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Jim Rome (sports show host, admittedly prone to exaggeration) calls the Panthers “the worst 3-0 team in history”, in part due to the fact that the three teams they played are 0-8.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/14 "2002-09-24T20:08:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by **whitetho** \*  
> Jim Rome calls the Panthers “the worst 3-0 team in history”, in part due to the fact that the three teams they played are 0-8.

I love this statistic. It’s so funny because of the very real possibility that it’s got cause and effect entirely reversed. Sure, the Panthers’ opponents are a combined 0-8, but if the Panthers hadn’t beaten them, they’d be 3-5, a far sight better.

I’m just saying that amuses me. I do think the Panthers have a good shot at holding that title. They are terrible, and so are Baltimore, Detroit, and Minnesota.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/15 "2002-09-24T20:39:11Z")

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Sometimes, it isn’t necessarily statistical talent that carries the day.

There are innumberable examples, but the one that sticks out in my mind (aside from the famous Jets-Colts Superbowl game) was summarized by two covers from 1984 Sports Illustrated issues, the first with a picture of Theismann about to throw a pass, and a headline “Bring on the Raiders!”. The next issue had a picture of Squirek clutching his interception from Bahr’s kick, with the headline “Blowout!”

😃

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2002, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/16 "2002-09-27T20:53:06Z")

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Boring.

These [Panthers](http://www.parkview.net/mainmenu/extra_curricular/athletic/football/footballindex.html) are not just 3-0 this season but _undefeated_ champions for the last _two_ seasons. Wake me when your Panthers go two consecutive years without a loss.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2002, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-panthers-are-undefeated/129251/17 "2002-09-28T00:10:49Z")

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It’s funny **ftg** just bumped this sucker, I was thinking about it yesterday.

I noticed that another undefeated team has played an even _less_ talented slate of oppontents through the first three weeks than have the Panthers.

Carolina has played Baltimore, Detroit, and Minnesota.

The San Diego Chargers have played Cincinatti, Houston, and Arizona.

What’s shocking is that that set of 6 teams might be the worst 6 in the NFL.
