# The passing of another Doper - danceswithcats

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 19, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983 "2009-08-19T19:15:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/141 "2009-08-20T12:54:12Z")

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Very sorry to hear this news. My condolences, **BiblioCat**.

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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/142 "2009-08-20T12:56:38Z")

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Oh my word. I’m so sorry to hear about this. Suicide often leaves more questions than answer. May he now rest in peace. ☹

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**Author:** ![D.Fenestrator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aca169/32.png) [@D.Fenestrator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D.Fenestrator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/143 "2009-08-20T13:32:05Z")

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I am so sorry to hear of your loss. ☹ I remember enjoying his posts.

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**Author:** ![Wallflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Wallflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallflower)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/144 "2009-08-20T13:38:51Z")

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My condolences

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/145 "2009-08-20T13:45:08Z")

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I’m very sad to hear this news. **Danceswithcats** ’s username made my face squirk up into a grin every time I saw it.

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/146 "2009-08-20T13:49:00Z")

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Well fuck. Paul was at my wedding. He gave us a CO2 monitor and some smoke detectors. Now I’ll be sad when I see them. I hadn’t seen him in awhile because of the kids, but we always got along. He even came over to the house to help out with some electrical stuff. This just sucks. ☹

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/147 "2009-08-20T13:52:53Z")

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I always enjoyed his posts, and I’m sad to hear the news. Rest well, Paul.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/148 "2009-08-20T13:57:21Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> [10/25/2003 -](http://brookenelson.com/sdmb/2003-10-25_halloween.jpg) Dope-a-ween party at **Jonathan Chance’s** house. From left: **ScubaBen** , welder’s name I don’t know, **danceswithcats** (in his fire gear), can’t remember the witch’s name, Mr. **norinew** , and **norinew**.

I think that witch is **moi**. I seem to recall there were only two witches there.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/149 "2009-08-20T14:02:42Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> I think that witch is **moi**. I seem to recall there were only two witches there.

That is moi. From left to right: You, **thatdarncat** , **danceswithcats** , **moi** , **Mr. norinew** , and **norinew**.

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/150 "2009-08-20T14:16:13Z")

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> [@av8rmike](#):
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> You know, I was just thinking about the HOT NUTS incident as well!

If you’re able to make the memorial service, hoist one and say “Hot Nuts” for me just once, would you?

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/151 "2009-08-20T15:21:21Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> **OpalCat** , the first time I went to his house, I asked him why there was a quarter on the back of the toilet tank. He told me about the time you brought your cats up there, and asked if you could use the bathroom. He jokingly asked if you had a quarter, and was surprised later when he went in there and realized you had actually left a quarter in the bathroom. It was still there the last time I was there. 🙂

I don’t remember that specifically, but it sounds like something I’d do. We used to have a sign on our bathroom door back when I was 20 or so that said “Pee Tokens” with an arrow and a coin slot (behind it was just a little box or envelope or something), and we would always joke that people had to put in pee tokens to use the bathroom. Every once in a while someone would actually put some sort of “token” to be silly. I’m sure when he said that it just delightfully reminded me of my own similar joke from all those years ago.

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**Author:** ![Alma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alma)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/152 "2009-08-20T15:42:03Z")

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I’m very sorry to hear this. My condolences to all who feel his loss.

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**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/153 "2009-08-20T16:05:56Z")

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I’m so sorry for your loss. As others have said, **danceswithcats** was a wonderful person and I thoroughly enjoyed his posts.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/154 "2009-08-20T16:54:11Z")

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:eek:

☹

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/155 "2009-08-20T17:25:46Z")

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I usually don’t post to these threads because by the time I get to the end of the thread there doesn’t seem to be anything left to say or I didn’t really know the Doper that well. Not that I knew danceswithcats well but his name was very recognizable to me, I even wondered where he was a little while ago when I was reading a thread I thought I should have seen his name in, something cat or fireman related probably.

I’m shocked to hear it was suicide. Bibliocat, as others have said, don’t play the “what if” or blame yourself game. It sounds like this was something he’d planned to do for a while and he showed he cared for you by letting you go before he did it. He probably thought it would be easier for you that way. Take care of yourself.

My sympathies to you and his family and friends.

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**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/156 "2009-08-20T18:57:54Z")

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**liberty3701** and I both remember meeting the two of you at a dopefest a couple of years ago. We were happy to meet both of you, and we are sorry to hear this news.

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/157 "2009-08-20T19:40:10Z")

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I always appreciated his posts.

_sadness_

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/158 "2009-08-20T20:43:03Z")

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I’ve attended as many MAD dopefests as possible, and Paul was always one of the people I looked forward to seeing again.

This is heartbreaking. I don’t know what to say.

If there is a memorial dopefest on Labor Day weekend, I will be there.

My thoughts and prayers are with those who he left behind. I hope he has now found peace.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/159 "2009-08-20T22:02:45Z")

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Can I ask if there is a particular charity, like maybe a local cat rescue or firefighters fund, that he may have supported where one could possibly make a donation in his name?

Sorry if it’s been mentioned already, I’ve had to read this thread in small bits and may have missed it.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-passing-of-another-doper-danceswithcats/506983/160 "2009-08-20T22:20:14Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Can I ask if there is a particular charity, like maybe a local cat rescue or firefighters fund, that he may have supported where one could possibly make a donation in his name?

I was thinking about this myself. He did leave a young daughter, and was a member of a volunteer firehouse for 30+ years. I’ve asked the executor of his estate about donations.  
I don’t know if there is a fund set up specifically for his daughter.  
I will find out about donations to his firehouse.

If nothing has been set up, I’m sure donations in his name to the firehouse (I’ll post the address once I’ve cleared it) will be appreciated, otherwise you could always send something to your local SPCA or Animal Rescue League. All of his cats were strays or rescue kitties.

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