# The Patriot party **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969 "2021-01-20T14:46:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/1 "2021-01-20T14:46:04Z")
> **[Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Political Party](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs)** > > President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House. > Mr. Trump discussed the matter with... Trump has been considering forming a third party after he leaves office; the “Patriot Party.” Will anything ever come of this? Trump, of course, does not posses the organizational and administrative know-how, much less the willingness to perform all the hard work required for an endeavor of this magnitude. No doubt he likes the idea, but the question remains would others with greater talent and resources be willing to do this undertaking on his behalf? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/2 "2021-01-20T15:01:34Z")
Hey, if it fractures the Republican party so badly that they can never win another election, I’m all for it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/3 "2021-01-20T15:04:23Z")
I could see him doing it to spite McConnell and the establishment Republicans. I think it could be good, provided that this doesn’t encourage progressives to split from the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/4 "2021-01-20T15:05:02Z")
If he does it, it’ll be because he can make money from it. He won’t care whether it hurts the GOP or not. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/5 "2021-01-20T15:05:17Z")
From what I understand, the two party system comes from the voting system. Third parties don’t stand a chance. He could start a party, but it won’t go anywhere unless the voting system is changed. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/6 "2021-01-20T15:07:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I could see him doing it to spite McConnell and the establishment Republicans. I think it could be good, provided that this doesn’t encourage progressives to split from the Democrats Wait, what? The progressives would be joining the Patriot Party? Or do you mean they would start their own party? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/7 "2021-01-20T15:08:57Z")
Read the platform for the [Constitution Party](https://constitutionparty.com/). They would love to have him and all of the Trumpanistas ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/8 "2021-01-20T15:09:10Z")
Who wants to tell him? (Can it be me, please?) > **[Patriot Party (1970s)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Party_(1960s%E2%80%931980s))** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > The Patriot Party was a socialist organization of the early 1970s in the United States that organized poor, rural whites in the Appalachian South and Pacific Northwest. The party was formed after a split with the Young Patriots Organization. The YPO's membership was drawn from street gangs of Appalachian whites in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois; it became politicized after working with the Young Lords, an ethnic Puerto Rican gang, a... ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/9 "2021-01-20T15:12:35Z")
No, but I could see hardcore progressives splitting from centrist democrats out of frustration, particularly if the party of Biden tries hard to curry favor with establishment Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/10 "2021-01-20T15:15:18Z")
I hope he does. It would be really good for the USA to have a third party, as that might encourage a fourth party. American politics should really be split four or five ways. I’m going to use the American point of view for describing the parties even though really most parties in America are further right in a more global view. So, the USA really has: Progressives (far-left) Democracts (center-left) Republicans (center-right) Fascists (far-right) And one could argue a Libertarian party as well. If Trump starts the fascist party that will allow the Republicans to return to normalcy, which would be good for the USA. And yes, having an extreme far-right party is spooky. But other nations have such parties and they’ve survived. It gives the extremists a chance to be politically expressed, and keep their poison out of the mainstream politics. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/11 "2021-01-20T15:16:31Z")
Oh, for sure. The progressives have been talking about doing a third party run even before Trump. I was just confused about the comment in regards to The Patriot Party. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/12 "2021-01-20T15:35:11Z")
Third parties don’t win elections. What they do accomplish is force the mainstream parties to adopt (some of) their policies or face siphoning votes away and throwing elections to the opposing mainstream party. I don’t see how having a fascist party helps America in any way, shape, or form. The last thing we want to see is a mainstream GOP doing any more than it already has to embrace extremist views. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlax/32/2927_2.png) [@Scarlax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlax)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/13 "2021-01-20T15:40:11Z")
Trump has always wanted to be in the middle of a P party. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/14 "2021-01-20T15:42:45Z")
And one that ends in a riot. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/15 "2021-01-20T15:48:22Z")
An effective third party could _supplant_ one of the two existing parties. Not that trump would be capable of organizing such an animal. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/16 "2021-01-20T16:03:32Z")
There are already fascist Americans, and they vote Republican. This doesn’t mean that all Republicans are fascist, just that if someone is a fascist, and they vote, they’re predominantly voting Republican. This forces the Republicans to at a minimum give them lip service with a “_wink_ _wink_ know what I mean”. Having an explicit extreme-right party makes such dealings explicit. For example, in France, if a party votes along with the National Front (their fascist party) then it is quite visible. The National Front’s ideology is also quite visible, which means people know what they stand for. It isn’t as hidden under a big tent party which is all the USA has right now. Of course, having a fascist ideology in a country is not ideal. There are fascists in Canada too. I don’t like it, but I certainly don’t want a major party having to work with them or if they’re going to work with them I want it to be explicit so the electorate can judge. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/17 "2021-01-20T16:22:01Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > I hope he does. It would be really good for the USA to have a third party, as that might encourage a fourth party. American politics should really be split four or five ways. Yeah, I can’t wait for every Presidential election to end up in the House of Representatives. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/18 "2021-01-20T16:26:47Z")
It’s about time we had a party that puts America first. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/19 "2021-01-20T16:31:19Z")
I wanted a good anagram of Patriot Party that included “riot”, but nothing available beats “to pry it apart” ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969/20 "2021-01-20T16:31:58Z")
God, this would be wonderful news. I hope he does it. Then, I could leave the Dem party and become a Rep, well, at least after all of the crazy went with him. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-patriot-party/930969.md?page=2)