# The People v OJ Simpson on FX

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 5, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230 "2016-02-05T14:49:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/41 "2016-02-19T23:22:45Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> IIRC, the FCC allowed AMC to air the word once a season for Breaking Bad. Perhaps that’s the rule now, past a certain hour?

I don’t think that the FCC has any say on what is said on cable networks, only broadcast networks.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/42 "2016-02-20T04:25:04Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> IIRC, the FCC allowed AMC to air the word once a season for Breaking Bad. Perhaps that’s the rule now, past a certain hour?

The FCC has no jurisdiction over pay services, only free over-the-air broadcasts.

The only thing preventing basic cable shows from including profanity and nudity is pressure from advertisers.

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**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/43 "2016-02-20T04:41:31Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> The FCC has no jurisdiction over pay services, only free over-the-air broadcasts.
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> The only thing preventing basic cable shows from including profanity and nudity is pressure from advertisers.

True. I remember hearing something from someone on the BB creative team similar to what **Casey1505** mentioned, but my recollection is that the network put that limitation on it. And I don’t think that the Big F was ever audible during the original airings, I only ever heard it audibly on Netflix and Blu-Ray.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/44 "2016-02-20T05:11:11Z")

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I specifically remember Hank telling Tuco (or whoever) to fuck off or go fuck yourself or something similar just before he was killed. What I remember about it is that the audio dropped out for the word fuck. You could clearly see his mouth say the word, but there was no audio.

I don’t think BB ever aired the sound for the word fuck in their original AMC broadcasts. By contrast, on ACS: OJ, Sarah Paulson audibly said “motherfucker” in the original FX broadcast.

EDIT: [Here’s a link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDmsQcVAo2c&t=0m42s) to what AMC actually aired in Hank’s death scene.

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**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/45 "2016-02-20T10:12:12Z")

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\*between Darden and Clark. He was telling her how she wouldn’t understand some aspect of the case, then pause, because she doesn’t get emotional in her cases. Like, we all thought he was going to say because she’s not black, that was a cool swerve.

\*I thought earlier Garcetti mentioned something about her getting too involved/emotional in her cases so I thought it was a reference to that and Darden was teasing her.

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**Author:** ![btcg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@btcg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/btcg)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/46 "2016-02-20T15:22:23Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> I watched the trial, read the books and saw episode 1. Though I generally like Cuba Goodings, I think he was miscast and unconvincing as Simpson. He’s at the same time, too sympathetic, but lacking the requisite smirk, the easy charm or the presence.
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> The rest of the cast was okay, in a movie of the week kind of way.

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Gooding is terrible in this role.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/47 "2016-02-21T03:35:07Z")

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Ep3 was much better than 2. That latter episode dragged a little bit, what with the car chase. But putting together “the Dream Team” was pretty interesting. I will note, however that it’s odd that the only person in all of LA who smoked at the time was Marcia Clark. I guess that’s just part of her tough persona!!

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**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/48 "2016-02-21T04:30:24Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> I almost forgot about Barry Scheck, that bowl haired, mousey looking guy with the DNA stuff.

I would expect people to know him because of the Innocence Project. I almost forgot about the OJ stuff.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/49 "2016-02-21T09:26:39Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> One thing I forgot to point out: FX continues to push the envelope for basic cable standards. Outside of the occasional unedited midnight broadcast with tons of disclaimers, I believe this is the first basic cable show to say the word “fuck” out loud and unedited. Specifically, the very last scene when Marcia Clark says: “Jonnie Cochran…Motherfucker!”

I think I’m the only person who watches it, but El Rey’s **From Dusk Till Dawn: The Series** has multiple F-bombs per episode, a ridiculous amount of blood, and a little bit of nudity.

But I find it interesting that this R-rated content was only added to the show in the last half of the second season. For the first season and a half, the harshest language used on the show was cable mainstays like “shit” and “asshole.”

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/50 "2016-02-21T13:41:51Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I think I’m the only person who watches it, but El Rey’s **From Dusk Till Dawn: The Series** has multiple F-bombs per episode, a ridiculous amount of blood, and a little bit of nudity.
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> But I find it interesting that this R-rated content was only added to the show in the last half of the second season. For the first season and a half, the harshest language used on the show was cable mainstays like “shit” and “asshole.”

That is interesting, but I’m not sure if El Rey fully qualifies. Typical basic cable channels reach around 94 million households. (FX, AMC, Comedy Central, E!, etc…) El Rey only reaches 40 million, so it probably has a different set of (self-enforced) rules than typical basic cable networks.

Or possibly, the swearing and nudity may be part of the reason it isn’t carried by the majority of basic cable packages.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/51 "2016-02-21T22:53:30Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> That is interesting, but I’m not sure if El Rey fully qualifies. Typical basic cable channels reach around 94 million households. (FX, AMC, Comedy Central, E!, etc…) El Rey only reaches 40 million, so it probably has a different set of (self-enforced) rules than typical basic cable networks.
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> Or possibly, the swearing and nudity may be part of the reason it isn’t carried by the majority of basic cable packages.

I suppose, but the “basic cable” tier is full. Has been for years. There’s no place for a channel that was founded three years ago (like El Rey) to go except in the digital tier.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/52 "2016-02-23T00:13:37Z")

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Too young to remember watching the trial and events live, but always enjoy reading about it.

After watching the first episode (but three of them had aired), I went on Wikipedia and read over the article on the OJ trial. Interesting how many of the little anecdotes here and there made it into the show - stuff like Pizza Hut’s sales going crazy during the White Bronco chase, or NBC cutting away from the NBA Finals, etc - enough to make me wonder if the Wikipedia article was heavily updated after the show aired, or vice versa (“if it’s in the Wikipedia article, put it in the show!”)

I hope the Kardashian kids stop showing up.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/53 "2016-02-23T00:36:38Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> I hope the Kardashian kids stop showing up.

So have we all, for going on two decades now.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/54 "2016-02-23T15:05:51Z")

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I tried to pay as little attention as possible to the trial when it was happening and found the actual murders as entertainment aspect of it unsettling for what it said about America. I had no idea that this trial brought us the Kardashians, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Is the series just a rehashing of the events or does it unpack the ugly implications of what fascination with that trial said about our culture? If it holds a mirror up to society, I’d be interested to watch it, but if it’s just a rehash of the “greatest” moments from a double homicide celebrity event, I’m not interested.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/55 "2016-02-23T16:17:03Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I tried to pay as little attention as possible to the trial when it was happening and found the actual murders as entertainment aspect of it unsettling for what it said about America. I had no idea that this trial brought us the Kardashians, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
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> Is the series just a rehashing of the events or does it unpack the ugly implications of what fascination with that trial said about our culture? If it holds a mirror up to society, I’d be interested to watch it, but if it’s just a rehash of the “greatest” moments from a double homicide celebrity event, I’m not interested.

I would suggest that if you want to discuss the OJ trial and its reflection on American society, that you open a Great Debates thread. In Cafe Society, this sounds a lot like thread-shitting.

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**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/56 "2016-02-23T18:03:41Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I would suggest that if you want to discuss the OJ trial and its reflection on American society, that you open a Great Debates thread. In Cafe Society, this sounds a lot like thread-shitting.

And I would disagree.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/57 "2016-02-23T21:33:07Z")

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> [@desertmonk](#):
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> And I would disagree.

You’re only saying that to support a fellow monk 😛  
(FTR I also disagree, it’s not threadshitting until it’s multiple posts)

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**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/58 "2016-02-23T22:10:42Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> You’re only saying that to support a fellow monk 😛  
> (FTR I also disagree, it’s not threadshitting until it’s multiple posts)

Lol I didn’t notice that 🙂

He may not have said it elegantly but basically, is this just a dramatization of a Wikipedia article or is there some real substance there? There were real race issues stirred up by the trial; is there real examination or is it just a cartoon? I don’t mean to hijack, please, resume your discussion of a show I’ll never see.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/59 "2016-02-23T22:21:54Z")

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> [@desertmonk](#):
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> Lol I didn’t notice that 🙂
> 
> He may not have said it elegantly but basically, is this just a dramatization of a Wikipedia article or is there some real substance there? There were real race issues stirred up by the trial; is there real examination or is it just a cartoon? I don’t mean to hijack, please, resume your discussion of a show I’ll never see.

Actually, I think it’s an interesting discussion, and wouldn’t mind seeing it in this thread. But if someone goes on to a TV show thread to announce that s/he won’t be watching the show because it doesn’t meet their criteria is kinda the definition of thread-shitting.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/60 "2016-02-23T22:54:06Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I would suggest that if you want to discuss the OJ trial and its reflection on American society, that you open a Great Debates thread. In Cafe Society, this sounds a lot like thread-shitting.

Fair enough.

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