# The People v OJ Simpson on FX

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 5, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230 "2016-02-05T14:49:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/101 "2016-03-04T18:29:16Z")

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This is bizarre. Police just found out about[a knife](https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/oj-simpson-saga-continues-lapd-confirms-theyre-170234505.html) found on OJ’s former estate years ago.

According to [Slate.com](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/04/buried_knife_on_o_j_simpson_s_property_recovered.html):

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> ```
> We're told a construction worker found the knife years ago -- we have heard several different stories, ranging from "several years ago" to 1998, when the house was demolished.
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> The weapon is a folding buck knife.
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> Our law enforcement sources say the construction worker took the knife to the street, where he saw an LAPD cop. He told the officer where he found the knife and the cop took it.
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> Turns out the cop -- who worked in the traffic division -- was off duty at the time, working security for a movie shoot at a house across the street on Rockingham. Our sources say the officer took the knife home and kept it ... kept it for years. 
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/102 "2016-03-04T18:45:43Z")

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^^^ seems to me as just an opportunity for someone to feel important now that the case is relevant again.

OJ being in jail since '08 (the ultimate make-up call) has made him a wee bit less important in recent years

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/103 "2016-03-05T02:12:11Z")

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OJ called a 15 year old Kim K after the trial? Was he looking for a date?

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/104 "2016-03-06T03:59:36Z")

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I’m currently watching the marathon running on FX…why is John Travolta made up like Arnold Schwarzenegger?

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/105 "2016-03-06T04:25:10Z")

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Why is there such intense interest about this knife?

I understand that OJ cannot be tried for the murder again because of Double Jeopardy.

Is the reason for all the interest in this knife due to some other civil case? I would guess that OJ has been able to disburse or otherwise hide all his money by now and even if the Browns and Goldmans won a bigger civil case, it would be pretty tough for them to collect any more money.

After all, didn’t they already win a large amount? And haven’t they been unable to collect very much of that money?

Still, there must be some reason why this knife is important. Suppose they could prove it had Nichole’s blood and OJ’s blood on it. What would be the ramification of that?

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/106 "2016-03-06T04:54:32Z")

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Fast-forwarding through the Kardashian kids…ugh. Were the producers of this show that desperate for filler?

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**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/107 "2016-03-06T09:03:01Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> I’m currently watching the marathon running on FX…why is John Travolta made up like Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Because the real Ahnold was not available to portray his doppelganger Robert Shapiro.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/108 "2016-03-06T23:33:03Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> OJ called a 15 year old Kim K after the trial? Was he looking for a date?

He’s her godfather. All the Kardashian kids grew up with OJ as their “Uncle Juice”, at least until the murders.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/109 "2016-03-07T14:14:33Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> Still, there must be some reason why this knife is important. Suppose they could prove it had Nichole’s blood and OJ’s blood on it. What would be the ramification of that?

Legally: none. He can’t be retried. In the court of public opinion, he would be even guiltier than he already is in the minds of the overwhelming majority (everyone except the jury).

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/110 "2016-03-09T18:05:46Z")

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This episode has been the best of the bunch. I was waiting for the focus on Clark as soon as I learned the name of the episode. Some fact checks [here](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/people-v-oj-simpson-episode-6-recap), and [here](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/recaps/the-people-v-o-j-simpson-episode-6-our-fact-checking-recap-20160308?page=3).

The moment when F. Lee Bailey cross examines Fuhrman was pretty much verbatim from the trial. Even then, the show kind of downplays Bailey’s demeanor:

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> The writers chose to preserve this exchange, but they let Bailey be much calmer than Toobin remembers. “Bailey rushed to the podium in a burst of manic energy,” he wrote. “He bounced on the balls of his feet as he asked questions … so pumped on adrenaline that he couldn’t focus on any subject for more than a few moments.”

And I loved how Marcia gets a shot in at Bailey about the small gloves 20 years before it was used in the GOP debate. I saw footage of that exchange, Clark gave as good as she got for at least that one day.

There’s been a lot written about how Clark was treated differently as a woman during this whole spectacle, from her hair to her clothes to her private life. The real Clark actually did an [interview](http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/marcia-clark-people-v-oj-simpson-episode-six.html) (one of several she did as this series aired) talking about the latest episode and the series up until now. It was, and still remains, hard for a woman to both work and project the kind of professionalism that men are often not held to.

There’s an[in-depth article](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/marcia-clark-topless-photos-people-v-oj-simpson-american-crime-story?mbid=social_facebook) written about that whole nude photo scandal that appeared. Even the response to that worked its way into the trial as Ito, in a rare showing of sympathy for Clark, recessed for the day.

And lastly, for that joke you can’t believe was real. [It was.](http://www.thewrap.com/marcia-clark-tampax-joke-oj-simpson-fact-check/)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/111 "2016-03-09T19:47:09Z")

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Last night’s episode was very well done. The actress playing Marcia Clark deserves an Emmy for her performance. I thought she nailed it. Great title for the episode.

I wonder how many people googled “Marcia Clark naked” last night? I don’t have any recollection of that bomb (apparently it was her ex-mother-in-law that released the photo, not her ex-husband).

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/112 "2016-03-09T21:20:21Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> This episode has been the best of the bunch. I was waiting for the focus on Clark as soon as I learned the name of the episode. Some fact checks [here](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/people-v-oj-simpson-episode-6-recap), and [here](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/recaps/the-people-v-o-j-simpson-episode-6-our-fact-checking-recap-20160308?page=3).
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> The moment when F. Lee Bailey cross examines Fuhrman was pretty much verbatim from the trial. Even then, the show kind of downplays Bailey’s demeanor:
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> And I loved how Marcia gets a shot in at Bailey about the small gloves 20 years before it was used in the GOP debate. I saw footage of that exchange, Clark gave as good as she got for at least that one day.
> 
> There’s been a lot written about how Clark was treated differently as a woman during this whole spectacle, from her hair to her clothes to her private life. The real Clark actually did an [interview](http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/marcia-clark-people-v-oj-simpson-episode-six.html) (one of several she did as this series aired) talking about the latest episode and the series up until now. It was, and still remains, hard for a woman to both work and project the kind of professionalism that men are often not held to.
> 
> There’s an[in-depth article](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/marcia-clark-topless-photos-people-v-oj-simpson-american-crime-story?mbid=social_facebook) written about that whole nude photo scandal that appeared. Even the response to that worked its way into the trial as Ito, in a rare showing of sympathy for Clark, recessed for the day.
> 
> And lastly, for that joke you can’t believe was real. [It was.](http://www.thewrap.com/marcia-clark-tampax-joke-oj-simpson-fact-check/)

I think they’re doing a great job with this show.

One thing that really floors me though is that I never would have imagined a defense would consist of a “team” and the lawyers in that team seem to really dislike each other.

I can’t say they’re pulling in all different directions. But they sure don’t seem to all be pulling together. What’s the point in having a team of lawyers if they don’t seem to really work like a team?

I suppose they may not know what went on behind closed doors or they just may not be showing us. But it sure seems like there is something bizarre in the dynamic of this so-called team.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/113 "2016-03-09T21:24:15Z")

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A lot, apparently

[Google trends: Marcia Clark Nude](https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=marcia%20clark%20nude)

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/114 "2016-03-09T21:31:12Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> I can’t say they’re pulling in all different directions. But they sure don’t seem to all be pulling together. What’s the point in having a team of lawyers if they don’t seem to really work like a team?

It seems like it wasn’t assembled to be a team; it was assembled to plug holes. You start with Shapiro (Kardashian is just along for the ride because he’s OJ’s buddy, who happens to be a lawyer so he gets a seat at the table). Shapiro knows he needs help, so he brings in his erstwhile friend Bailey, and, reluctantly, Cochran.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/115 "2016-03-10T02:00:15Z")

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I was so moved by the episode and there wasn’t really anything in it that I didn’t know already. Like I shouldn’t be getting so angry or sad when nothing is a surprise, but this is so well put together that I feel like I’m reliving this all for the first time.

Paulson needs all the awards. Even if she weren’t basing her performance on a real person she’d be doing fantastic. Factor that in and it’s a home run.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/116 "2016-03-10T03:33:06Z")

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I doubt I’ve spent a collective total of 30 minutes thinking about Marcia Clark in the last 22 years, but this episode really made her a 3-D person. (Those nude pics have the worst tan lines in history, btw.)

I wonder if Johnny Cochran paying off his ex-wife not to talk to the press is real. That’s the first I’ve heard of him having a domestic violence incident in his past.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/117 "2016-03-18T07:28:01Z")

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Man, we got to the gloves and no comments?

I was kinda surprised at the idea that Shapiro would’ve been able to just wander up to the gloves during a break and try them on, sans latex gloves (though the show does make it look like he’s being sneaky about it). Apparently it is false… but [in a worse way](http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/recaps/the-people-v-o-j-simpson-episode-7-our-fact-checking-recap-20160315):

> [@](#):
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> “The defense lawyers spent much of the [June 15 lunch break] examining — and goofing around with — the gloves. Just about every lawyer tried them on.”

And apparently the prosecution was planning to have OJ try gloves on the whole time, but the new pair, not the blood-stained ones in evidence. [It was Ito](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/people-v-oj-simpson-episode-7-recap) who made the call to have him try on the ones from the scene, as well as wear latex gloves.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/118 "2016-03-18T13:46:25Z")

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Caught up a bit last night. Still pretty solid so far, but I was a bit perplexed about the whole hairstyle thing with Clark. The first cut she did, that everyone was commenting on, looked pretty much like what she had before, just shorter. I mean, I probably wouldn’t even have noticed. Then she shows up with a totally different do and no one says shit. Whatever.

Is there _anyone_ in LA who doesn’t have some pretty sordid dirt in his/her background? 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/119 "2016-03-18T15:38:12Z")

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I was surprised by how the Fuhrman story was dispensed with so quickly. Does the defense recall him and grill him? I remember him being on the stand forever? They didn’t get into the tapes of him (the ones he claimed were a screenplay he was writing) or any of that.

Earlier this year there was a goof where a fashion writer mistook Whoopi Goldberg for Oprah Winfrey in spite of the fact of them looking about as much alike as Whoopi Goldberg and Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey and Taylor Swift. I’m beginning to wonder if the same person had something to do with casting Cuba Gooding Jr. as OJ; he’s so miscast that he ruins every scene he’s in. Rick Fox is not an OJ dead-ringer either (too tall and too light skinned) but is an example of an actor who could convey OJ’s presence and charisma, or some unknown ringer who works cheaper than Gooding- lots of people would have been better. (Hell, if you want to cast a more convincing black Oscar winner as OJ go with Whoopi Goldberg- she’s not going to be any more distracting than Cuba.)

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-people-v-oj-simpson-on-fx/745230/120 "2016-03-18T16:25:25Z")

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Suppose the prosecution did not ask OJ to put the gloves on. If the defense did so, would that be in any way equivalent to calling him as a witness, opening up to cross-examination? The latex gloves underneath increased the friction so much that the demonstration was pointless. Stupid stupid move on the prosecutor’s part.

The acting continues to hold up. I can’t believe I’m liking John Travolta. As much as I like Cuba Gooding, I just don’t buy him as OJ. The rest of the main cast is spot on. Where did they get Goldman’s doppelganger? That’s just creepy.

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