# The perfect Star Trek

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 19, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006 "2003-06-19T21:06:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/1 "2003-06-19T21:06:32Z")

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First off, let’s get one reply out of the way: “The perfect Trek is NO Trek!” Yeah, we’ve all heard your crap, if you’re not a fan (or at least someone who has seen and enjoyed a few shows here and there) then try and avoid posting here, K?

That said, let’s get down to business.

Most of us Trek Dopers have definite preferences out of the TV shows and movies. Also, we have fave characters, ships, alien species, weapons, plots, lines, heavy scenes, funny scenes, hammish acting, good acting, silly ideas, good writing, good effects, lame plot contrivances, yada yada yada…

Take all your favorites from ANY movie, ep, story arc, series… and make the series or movie of your dreams.

A few rules:

!) Don’t take anyone out of character. You can expand their role, but be true to the real McCoy.

1. Keep the species alliances the way thet have evolved through the various Treks.

2. Use only ships, worlds, and weapons that can be referenced. No matter how obscure a reference, make sure we can find it in some ep.

3. Things added in books are not allowed. Sorry.

4. We’ve done this before, haven’t we?

5. Yeah, so what? I’m bored. Humor me

6. Musicals are fun.

7. Now I’m just rambling.

8. Have fun!

9. When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/2 "2003-06-19T21:59:17Z")

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Hell, I’d settle for an episode where the crew (any crew, doesn’t matter) visits a non-Federation planet where the citizens are getting the short end of the stick and the crew follows the Prime Directive (regrettably), beams up, and goes home.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/3 "2003-06-19T22:25:19Z")

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I’d like to have seen a TNG story arc dealing with the race of mind-controlling parasites that temporarily took over Star Fleet High Command.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/4 "2003-06-19T23:38:20Z")

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Ok, How ‘bout we take the demented killer Betazoid from V-ger, pair him with the blood lust creature (no, not the vampire cloud) from TOS’ _Wolf in the Fold_, and set them down on the paradise planet ruled by Va’al. (I just now noticed how close that is to Ba’al. wow.)

Data’s Sherlock Holmes personality is called on to investigate the crimes.

It’s a two parter and in the cliff hanger, possesed Betazed man takes over control of Va’al and does away with Dat/Holmes.

Luckily, Data had left a positron trace on the transporter and was recreated just in time to stop PB from murdering Wesley. (Damn!)

Everyone rejoices and feasts on quadrotrictakali wheat bread.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/5 "2003-06-19T23:47:34Z")

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I would like to see a miniseries about all the other ships that were at the Battle of Wolf 359. Except for a few minutes in the pilot of DS9, that extremely important event in Federation history is never even seen.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/6 "2003-06-19T23:58:28Z")

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I’ll take any episode that isn’t resolved with technobabble.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/7 "2003-06-20T00:08:03Z")

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How about what TNG Enterprise and crew were doing during the Dominion War?

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/8 "2003-06-20T03:25:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rjung \*  
> \*\*I’ll take any episode that isn’t resolved with technobabble. \*\*

Well, you’ve got… uh…there’s…hmmm.

I’ll get back to you.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/9 "2003-06-20T03:38:01Z")

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I suck at episode ideas so here’re some mini-series ideas.

The evolution of the Founders and the formation of the Dominion. The eugenics of the Vorta and the creation of the Jem’ Hadar would be some of the highlights.

The schism of Vulcan and Romulan peoples, culminating in the Romulan exodus and the foundation of the Romulan Star Empire.

The rise and fall of the Cardassian Union.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/10 "2003-06-22T15:14:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lumpy \*  
> \*\*How about what TNG Enterprise and crew were doing during the Dominion War? \*\*

Dining on caviar and fine wine, and pretending like the whole universe is one big happy family. Just like they always do.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/11 "2003-06-22T16:25:56Z")

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The perfect Trek has already been done. It was _The Wrath of Khan_.

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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/12 "2003-06-22T17:35:17Z")

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I always thought it would be cool to do a Star Trek series in the style of The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits in the regard that it has completely different charaters every week. The ST universe is, by now, vast enough that we can have disconnected episodes … one episode could focus on a young Bajoran’s decision to join the resistence on Cardassian-occupied Bajor … another could focus on a great mind being assimilated into the Borg collective and lost forever … and so on.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/13 "2003-06-22T17:38:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> **First off, let’s get one reply out of the way: “The perfect Trek is NO Trek!” Yeah, we’ve all heard your crap, if you’re not a fan (or at least someone who has seen and enjoyed a few shows here and there) then try and avoid posting here, K?  
> SNIP**

Change “try and” to “try to” for the perfect grammar.

–😃 v

runs off before NCB can lob something at her head …

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**Author:** ![Optihut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/edb3f5/32.png) [@Optihut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Optihut)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/14 "2003-06-22T19:27:26Z")

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I’d do a series with different ships: You know, 3 episodes NCC 1701-D, then a couple of Episodes that focus on the crew of the Yamato (before it was self destructed as a result of the system overload from the iconian probe), a couple of episodes of yet another ship - perhaps with a mostly European crew for a change 😉

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**Author:** ![McJohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@McJohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McJohn)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/15 "2003-06-22T20:48:27Z")

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Um… Viv… you do realize that this is a series whose best-known tag line contains a rampant split inifinitive? And now you’re getting after NCB for using a less-common variant of a verb form?

Wow, gotta run, my irony meter’s chiming.

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/16 "2003-06-22T21:29:43Z")

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An episode that doesn’t deal with time travel or the holodeck.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/17 "2003-06-22T23:01:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by McJohn \*  
> \*\*Um… Viv… you do realize that this is a series whose best-known tag line contains a rampant split inifinitive? And now you’re getting after NCB for using a less-common variant of a verb form?
> 
> SNIP\*\*

Yup. It’s okay; he’s used to it.

Are you saying that the tag line should be “beam up me” ?

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/18 "2003-06-22T23:34:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*Change “try and” to “try to” for the perfect grammar.  
> \*\*

Sure, just try and avoid posting anything trivial. Just try!

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**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/19 "2003-06-23T01:20:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Daniel \*  
> \*\*I always thought it would be cool to do a Star Trek series in the style of The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits in the regard that it has completely different charaters every week. The ST universe is, by now, vast enough that we can have disconnected episodes … one episode could focus on a young Bajoran’s decision to join the resistence on Cardassian-occupied Bajor … another could focus on a great mind being assimilated into the Borg collective and lost forever … and so on. \*\*

That’s brilliant!  
They could even do bits where people from different episodes do little walk-ons and follow-up episodes.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perfect-star-trek/183006/20 "2003-06-23T02:41:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by NoCoolUserName \*  
> \*\*Sure, just try and avoid posting anything trivial. Just try! \*\*

Tried. Failed. Must…post…trivial…matters…

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