# The PermaPit "FOX News is full of s\*\*\*" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199 "2009-11-11T17:32:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/21 "2009-11-14T05:55:49Z")

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> Can someone tell me how exactly an “inadvertent mistake” like that might happen? Did someone just happen to have tea party footage laying around while they were editing?

Well Fox has some pretty terrible people doing video editing they ‘accidental’ put in a clip showing Obama making a speech when talking about the execution of the DC sniper. I’m sure that was an accident too. They are both black right, you know all those people look alike, clip of the President of the US vs guy who murdered people with a sniper rifle. How were they supposed to tell those apart.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/22 "2009-11-14T06:17:19Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Next you’ll be telling me the pope is Catholic and Bears defecate in the forest.

No, the Bears defecate at Soldier Field in Chicago. 5 picks, har har!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/23 "2009-11-15T07:29:51Z")

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The Pope is Catholic? I thought he was a Nazi.

Oh yes, I support the idea of this thread. There will be enough material to keep it running so long as Fox is on the air, and so long as Dopers can stand watching and reporting on it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/24 "2009-11-15T07:49:47Z")

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We don’t have to do that, we got people for that!

> **[The Daily Show with Trevor Noah | Comedy Central](https://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah)**
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> The Daily Show is an Emmy- and Peabody Award-winning program that looks at the day’s top headlines through a sharp, reality-based lens.

5:00 mark.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/25 "2009-11-15T15:18:20Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Well Fox has some pretty terrible people doing video editing they ‘accidental’ put in a clip showing Obama making a speech when talking about the execution of the DC sniper. I’m sure that was an accident too. They are both black right, you know all those people look alike, clip of the President of the US vs guy who murdered people with a sniper rifle. How were they supposed to tell those apart.

Say what? They did not do that, did they? Link?

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**Author:** ![Alienhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Alienhand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alienhand)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/26 "2009-11-15T16:07:16Z")

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[Link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-isZIEXU) (:33-:47). It’s not a whole lot but it is yet another ‘mistake’.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/27 "2009-11-15T16:09:29Z")

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> [@L. G. Butts](#):
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> Say what? They did not do that, did they? Link?

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QVr-isZIEXU/hqdefault.jpg "Fox News Shows Obama as DC Sniper Not John Allen Muhammad?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-isZIEXU)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/28 "2009-11-15T17:32:54Z")

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That one actually does look a mistake to me, since the next story up _was_ about Obama.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/29 "2009-11-15T17:40:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That one actually does look a mistake to me, since the next story up _was_ about Obama.

Yeah, I gotta agree there. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/30 "2009-11-16T03:20:18Z")

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Fox hasn’t earned the benefit of the doubt. IMO, quite the opposite.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/31 "2009-11-16T05:04:54Z")

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Sure, but the whole thing is pretty thin when you think about it. I mean, who thinks Obama was the sniper?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/32 "2009-11-16T05:09:57Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I mean, who thinks Obama was the sniper?

Nobody. _Yet_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/33 "2009-11-16T05:11:30Z")

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Its not so much that, but he refuses to prove that he isn’t. And people are saying, you know, it could be possible…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/34 "2009-11-16T05:33:35Z")

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Come to think of it, I’ve never seen them both in the same place… and Obama can shoot a _basketball_, after all.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/35 "2009-11-16T06:08:35Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That one actually does look a mistake to me, since the next story up _was_ about Obama.

They did chose to put the stories side by side. Show a story about a sniper killing people then follow it up with the president speaking. Just those subtle hints the people crazy people who watch and believe the narrative FOX News sells about how Obama is destroying the country needs. It was at the very least irresponsible. I’m sure their apology is coming. Not going to hold my breath waiting for it.

I’m willing to accept it was a mistake. What I’m not willing to accept is they regularly make mistakes that favor their preconceived narratives. Can we get some examples of them making mistakes that favor the left wing? Could simply be they only spend time to check for things that might make their side look bad. Anything that might make those guys on the left look bad just isn’t worth their time watching out for.

Good journalists admit when the make mistakes. Every reputable newspaper includes corrections in the future papers for mistakes they’ve made. Most the journalists on other networks report things they’ve messed up on. The only time Fox ever admits to mistakes is after other networks have to devote time on their networks to point them out.

Has FOX apologized yet for taking out full page ads claiming they were the only network to cover the tea party rally?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/36 "2009-11-16T17:25:51Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Its not so much that, but he refuses to prove that he isn’t. And people are saying, you know, it could be possible…

These are, I think, important questions that we, as Dopers, need to ask. But \*\*RNATB \*\*is the only one who seems to ask these questions. The Main Stream Dope just ignores them, which concerns real Dopers. And I’m not saying Obama \*is \*the DC sniper… but I am concerned he might be, and he has done nothing so far to relieve my suspicions. Draw your own _pregnant pause_ OBAMA IS GONNA KILL US ALL, CAN’T YOU SEE THAT ?! conclusions.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/37 "2009-11-16T17:29:21Z")

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People are saying that this is an important issue, and we at the Dope have to be concerned about the White House efforts to silence such questions.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/38 "2009-11-16T18:41:00Z")

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**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/39 "2009-11-16T20:17:50Z")

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Why does anyone who leans left actually watch FoX news? I am not a lefty and I don’t watch Fox News.

I guess in the grand scheme of things you guys need things to talk about eh?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/40 "2009-11-16T20:20:09Z")

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> [@Kearsen](#):
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> Why does anyone who leans left actually watch FoX news? I am not a lefty and I don’t watch Fox News.

We don’t. Well, we have one designated watcher (it rotates) who hysterically telegraphs anything over-reactable to everyone else.

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