# The PermaPit "FOX News is full of s\*\*\*" Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199 "2009-11-11T17:32:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/61 "2009-11-20T13:23:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > It was Point/Counterpoint with Vin Diesel and Andy Dick. I would totally watch that. Especially if every episode ended with Vin snapping Andy Dick in half. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/62 "2009-11-20T15:15:04Z")
That was Colmes? I thought it was Moe the Bartender. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/63 "2009-11-24T21:46:04Z")
Well, it looks like the last straw (dissing a Republican for a change) has created a [Call to Action](http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/11/23/fox_news/index.html) at Fox. From an internal memo: > [@](#): > > We had a mistake on Newsroom today when a wrong book cover went on screen during a guest segment, the kind of thing that can fall through the cracks on any day with any story given the large amount of elements and editorial we run through our broadcasts. Unfortunately, it is the latest in a series of mistakes on FNC in recent months … Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors. Mistakes by any member of the show team that end up on air may result in immediate disciplinary action against those who played significant roles in the “mistake chain,” and those who supervise them. That may include warning letters to personnel files, suspensions, and other possible actions up to and including termination, and this will all obviously play a role in performance reviews. So we now face a great opportunity to review and improve on our workflow and quality control efforts. To make the most of that opportunity, effective immediately, Newsroom is going to “zero base” our newscast production. That means we will start by going to air with only the most essential, basic, and manageable elements. To share a key quote from today’s meeting: “It is more important to get it right, than it is to get it on.” We may then build up again slowly as deadlines and workloads allow so that we can be sure we can quality check everything before it makes air, and we never having to explain, retract, qualify or apologize again. Please know that jobs are on the line here. I can not stress that enough. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/64 "2009-11-24T22:04:48Z")
Oh, man, they better hope they follow through on that. The next Republican caught in a scandal that’s labeled as D is going to be that much more mud in their faces after that memo. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/65 "2009-11-24T22:33:37Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Well, it looks like the last straw (dissing a Republican for a change) has created a [Call to Action](http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/11/23/fox_news/index.html) at Fox. From an internal memo: Sean Hannity better get a waiver from that policy or he’s going to lose half his material. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/66 "2009-11-24T22:56:21Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Sean Hannity better get a waiver from that policy or he’s going to lose half his material. You say that like they’re actually going to _enforce_ this. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/67 "2009-11-24T23:05:19Z")
They’re only banning _accidental_ screwups. Deliberate misleading statements, or consciously putting false statements out is still A OK. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/68 "2009-11-24T23:17:57Z")
[Was the person responsible for this fired?](http://wonkette.com/412361/all-193-of-republicans-support-palin-romney-and-huckabee) To me, this does not disprove that Fox gets things wrong accidentally on purpose for their own cynical reasons. It just proves that they are incompetent AND manipulative. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/69 "2009-11-24T23:22:45Z")
> [@fox memo](#): > > To share a key quote from today’s meeting: “It is more important to get it right, than it is to get it on.” I can’t imagine anything more important than getting it on! ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/70 "2009-11-25T00:40:16Z")
> [@Manduck](#): > > I can’t imagine anything more important than getting it on! Then you haven’t tried Cherry Garcia ice cream, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/71 "2009-11-25T00:46:09Z")
While getting it on! OK, kinda messy, but still… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/72 "2009-11-25T03:29:34Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [Was the person responsible for this fired?](http://wonkette.com/412361/all-193-of-republicans-support-palin-romney-and-huckabee) > > To me, this does not disprove that Fox gets things wrong accidentally on purpose for their own cynical reasons. It just proves that they are incompetent AND manipulative. They probably just bought him a calculator. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/73 "2009-11-25T20:33:34Z")
I posted this in the Stupid Republicans thread, but just for the record it should be in this thread too. Former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino had a [major memory lapse](http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911240056) on Hannity’s show. [QUOTE=Dana Perino on Hannity] “I don’t know all of their thinking that goes into it, **but we did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush’s term.** I hope that they’re not looking into this politically.” [/QUOTE] Why didn’t Hannity or the other guest correct her? Because it’s not in their interest to do so? I’d like to hear the Hannity supporters explain away/defend his silence. Since I doubt there are Dopers even that stupid, anybody got a line on what they’re saying elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/74 "2009-11-25T20:50:14Z")
I can tell you what they’re thinking. 9/11 counts against Clinton because it was too early for Bush to really do anything about it. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/75 "2009-11-25T20:57:37Z")
It’s long been a part of Bush apologists’ rhetorical jujitzu to try to say that Bush did not allow any terrorist attacks after 9/11. It looks like they’re now trying to elide the end of that sentence. It’s an incredibly fake and stupid metric anyway. No President can prevent terrorist attacks. The GOP Lord and Savior, Christ Ronnie sure didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/76 "2009-11-25T21:05:46Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I posted this in the Stupid Republicans thread, but just for the record it should be in this thread too. > > Former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino had a [major memory lapse](http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911240056) on Hannity’s show. > > Why didn’t Hannity or the other guest correct her? Because it’s not in their interest to do so? > > I’d like to hear the Hannity supporters explain away/defend his silence. Since I doubt there are Dopers even that stupid, anybody got a line on what they’re saying elsewhere? They’ll probably defend it by saying something like, “Well, she only said **term** and not **terms** , so she was probably referring to his second term. I honestly don’t see the problem.” ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/77 "2009-12-09T23:30:45Z")
Here’s a funny clip from the Daily Show last night. It seems Fox can’t get it’s math right. And I love how they have to go out of their way to dumb down their material. > **[Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson For "Dumbing Herself Down" (VIDEO)](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jon-stewart-calls-out-gre_n_385158)** > > Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson For "Dumbing Herself Down" (VIDEO) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/78 "2009-12-09T23:34:37Z")
You leave Dana Perino alone! She works so hard! (sob) She gives and gives, and all you bastards can do is tear her down! (blubber, sob…) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/79 "2009-12-10T13:58:06Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Here’s a funny clip from the Daily Show last night. It seems Fox can’t get it’s math right. And I love how they have to go out of their way to dumb down their material. > > [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/09/jon-stewart-calls-out-gre\_n\_385158.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/09/jon-stewart-calls-out-gre_n_385158.html) There’s a link in there to an even funnier story. [Fox is defending the chart and claiming there is nothing wrong with it.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/08/fox-news-fuzzy-math-claim_n_384308.html) The executive producer of _Fox and Friends_ is quoted: > [@](#): > > We were just talking about three interesting pieces of information from Rasmussen,” Petterson said. “We didn’t put on the screen that it added up to 100 percent. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-permapit-fox-news-is-full-of-s-thread/517199/80 "2009-12-10T15:19:37Z")
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