# the persecuted Monty Python fan.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 2, 2001, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055 "2001-11-02T03:38:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![uberDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f04885/32.png) [@uberDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uberDave)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/21 "2001-11-02T16:03:41Z")

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Nee! Nee!

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**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/22 "2001-11-02T16:29:17Z")

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I didn’t have to fork out any of my hard earned money for my DVD copy of The Holy Grail… it was a gift along with The Princess Bride DVD. 🙂

However, I will be saving my hard earned pennies for the DVD set of ALL the episodes. Yes… every episode of The Flying Circus is on DVD.

In fact, it looks like everythin that Monty Python has ever done is now on DVD.

Life really is good.

My boys have just discovered Python for the very first time and they run about saying things like "There’s a penguin on the tele… " or “Come back and I will taunt you again…”

It warms a fathers heart to hear them say this much like when my eight year old comes up to me and says very seriously…

“My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father… prepare to die…”

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**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/23 "2001-11-02T17:06:15Z")

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Enough of this, who owns the [Special Edition](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005O3VC/qid=1004720607/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/107-1834432-0096504) of the Holy Grail and is it possibly as cool as it sounds?

I mean the fact that it has “Subtitles for People Who Don’t Like the Film (taken from Shakespeare’s Henry IV, part II)”, incredible.  
WHY WASN’T I INFORMED?

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/24 "2001-11-02T20:22:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by uberDave \*  
> \*\*Nee! Nee! \*\*

That’s supposed to be “Ni!”…

(Geez, first “candy photography,” now this. When quoting from the classics, accuracy is important.)

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/25 "2001-11-02T23:09:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kilt-wearin’ man \*  
> \*\*That’s the scary thing - amid all the sillyness, these guys were sticklers for historical detail… \*\*

This might have had to do with their education. With the exception of Terry Gilliam, they went to college at Oxford and Cambridge. John Cleese has a law degree, Graham Chapman was a licensed doctor (kept the license current untill he died IIRC, and was the set doctor while on location for _Life of Brian_), Eric Idle was (IIRC) an English major, and Terry Jones (who directed the Python films) has a degree in History - which may explain the historical detail. I forget what Michael Palin studied.

I once read an article that of the films _Excalibur_ and _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_, Holy Grail was more historically accurate in the depiciton of everyday life at that time, citing as an example Arthur being recognized as a king “cuz he doesn’t have shit all over him.”

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**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/26 "2001-11-03T00:02:22Z")

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But you know what they said when they were offered the land…

Ethnic Germans in other countries:  
“But we don’t want any of that, we’d rather …”

German Official:  
“Rather what?”

Ethnic Germans in other countries:  
“We’d rather … just … sing …”

😃

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**Author:** ![Roger\_the\_Shrubber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@Roger\_the\_Shrubber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_the_Shrubber)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/27 "2001-11-03T01:15:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> \*\*I used to play a Champions superhero, a dark-clad avenger of the night type, who was hunting the wrong people. He had received faulty information as to who had wronged him some time in the past and he had devoted his life to hunting them down and punishing them, but the people he was handing over to the police were all innocent.
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> His secret ID? Dennis Moore.
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> Only one person ever got it. \*\*

dennis, the opressed peasant?

Kwyjibo, you made me laugh out loud. tnkhas.

Danke, **Monster!** I’m adding that to my sig!

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**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/28 "2001-11-03T01:21:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Roger the Shrubber \*  
> **Kwyjibo, you made me laugh out loud. tnkhas.**

You’re not going to have a laugh while I’m here!

😉

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**Author:** ![Fibonacci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Fibonacci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibonacci)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/29 "2001-11-03T01:28:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \*  
> and Terry Jones (who directed the Python films) has a degree in History - which may explain the historical detail. \*\*

He did an excellent documentary on the Crusades for The History Channel.  
[http://www.click4stuff.com/ggroup/crussetchanj.html](http://www.click4stuff.com/ggroup/crussetchanj.html)  
looks like a book too  
[http://www.brighton73.freeserve.co.uk/bookstore/general/terryjones.htm](http://www.brighton73.freeserve.co.uk/bookstore/general/terryjones.htm)  
He made this so enjoyable to watch, you wish the Crusades (1095-1270) had lasted longer.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/30 "2001-11-03T01:29:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \*  
> **With the exception of Terry Gilliam, they went to college at Oxford and Cambridge… I forget what Michael Palin studied.**

[Palin read History too](http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/Palin_biog.html). Very nice bloke.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/31 "2001-11-03T02:11:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Roger the Shrubber \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> > \*\*I used to play a Champions superhero, a dark-clad avenger of the night type, who was hunting the wrong people. He had received faulty information as to who had wronged him some time in the past and he had devoted his life to hunting them down and punishing them, but the people he was handing over to the police were all innocent.
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> > His secret ID? Dennis Moore.
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> > Only one person ever got it. \*\*
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> dennis, the opressed peasant?  
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Nope.  
**Singing** Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, dum de dum de dum. He steals from the rich, and gives to the poor! Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore. **/Singing**

Gotta watch your lupines when he’s around.  
I’m nearly through watching my 14-disc DVD set of the Flying Circus. There’s a lot of great stuff in there.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/32 "2001-11-03T07:56:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Smeghead \*  
> \*\*I’m nearly through watching my 14-disc DVD set of the Flying Circus. There’s a lot of great stuff in there. \*\*

But not the Four Yorkshiremen, I’m told. Sigh…I so want to watch that with Friend; we’re always trying to outdo each other with my-childhood-sucked anecdotes.

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**Author:** ![goonhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ebca7d/32.png) [@goonhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goonhead)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/33 "2001-11-03T08:33:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Roger the Shrubber \*  
> \*\*“So, Germany wanted these people back.” (Who? I don’t know. Wasn’t paying that much attention.) “So to get them to come back, they offer them money and huge tracts of land…”
> 
> I absolutely explode in laughter. Dustin is doing the same. Everyone else just _stares_ at us. And stares, and stares… We were the ONLY TWO in the _entire_ _class_ that got it! And the fact that everyone else thought us crazy made it just that much funnier. And we Couldn’t Stop Laughing. I should probably explain that to him tomorrow.
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> Ah well. \*\*

A friend of mine who was a russian major (and is a major Monty Python fan) told me that this whole bit was inspired by the real-life saga of russian czar Peter the Great, particularly the part where the king says “first we built our castle, then it sank into the swamp…”. Apparently Peter the Great had his castle built in what is now St. Petersburg, only to have it sink into the swamp.

This explains why the prince must marry the princess who’s got the “huge tracts of land”…“we live in a bloody swamp!”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/34 "2001-11-05T10:08:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Smeghead \*
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> Nope.  
> **Singing** Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, dum de dum de dum. He steals from the rich, and gives to the poor! Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore. **/Singing** \*\*

“He steals from the poor, and gives to the rich! Stupid bitch!”

“Right – now who else has a tiara?”

🙂

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**Author:** ![RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5daacb/32.png) [@RocknRoll\_Killing\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RocknRoll_Killing_Machine)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-persecuted-monty-python-fan/91055/35 "2001-11-05T10:26:38Z")

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> Gilliam is the American and is now known for directing films as 12 Monkeys, Brazil, The Fisher King, etc

**CRAZY**.

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