# The photon belt thing.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports
**Created:** [January 14, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742 "2019-01-14T16:37:07Z")
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### Author: ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/1 "2019-01-14T16:37:07Z")

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To begin with, the word “belt” implies a ring. Of photons? How were they supposed to stay in a belt? I realize light can be bent by gravity but wouldn’t it take a hellofa chunk of gravity to trap photons in an orbit.

> **[Is the earth about to enter the Photon Belt, causing the end of life as we...](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/963/is-the-earth-about-to-enter-the-photon-belt-causing-the-end-of-life-as-we-know-it/)**

Dennis

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### Author: ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/2 "2019-01-14T16:58:10Z")

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I like the idea that entering a “photon belt” is going to give us three days of darkness.

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### Author: ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/3 "2019-01-14T17:45:10Z")

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If you’re going to invent astronomical phenomenon out of whole cloth, you can give it any properties you want.

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### Author: ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/4 "2019-01-14T18:00:27Z")

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Exactly. Light stays in the belt due to the power of narrativium.

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### Author: ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/5 "2019-01-14T18:56:40Z")

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I tried using a photon belt to hold up my pants but it was too light.

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### Author: ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/6 "2019-01-14T18:56:54Z")

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> [@Cecil](#):
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> As a fallback, some New Agers are saying the photon belt won’t get here until 2011.

[The danger has passed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Southwest_blackout).

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### Author: ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/7 "2019-01-14T19:02:33Z")

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The Hubble took pictures of it, look up and slightly to the left.

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/8 "2019-01-14T19:08:31Z")

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Not like Orion’s Belt, which is a complete waist of space. Not, impressed, I’d give it 3 stars.

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### Author: ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/9 "2019-01-14T19:12:59Z")

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If the photons are coming from our sun, then to form a belt (ring), they’d have to move into an area with a refractive index much higher than the vacuum of space. Glass is a good candidate, having an index of 1.52.

So it seems that we’re hurtling toward a crystal sphere.

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### Author: ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/10 "2019-01-14T21:09:26Z")

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> [@mixdenny](#):
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> To begin with, the word “belt” implies a ring. Of photons? How were they supposed to stay in a belt? I realize light can be bent by gravity but wouldn’t it take a hellofa chunk of gravity to trap photons in an orbit.

In order for a [“photon belt”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere) to exist, indeed, you need a compact object such as a black hole. It is true that if the Earth were to fall into a black hole it would cause some disruption to the ecosystem.

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### Author: ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/11 "2019-01-14T21:51:14Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Not like Orion’s Belt, which is a complete waist of space. Not, impressed, I’d give it 3 stars.

Golf clap 2x.

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### Author: ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-photon-belt-thing/827742/12 "2019-01-15T18:48:32Z")

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At least 2x.

> [@furryman](#):
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> I tried using a photon belt to hold up my pants but it was too light.

That one gets an ouch.😃
