# The Physical Geography of the world and our historical timeline are being supernaturally changed as I type this

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**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576 "2021-05-07T05:41:10Z")\
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IIRC, Tubb’s partner’s mom was Betty Crocker. In _my_ timeline.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/182 "2021-05-08T12:11:37Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I clearly remember th “Franco-American” jingle being sung at the end of Spaghettios commercials.

I don’t remember the commercials. I was thinking about the can they came in. For whatever reason I remember the picture of Chef Boyardee on the label 😅.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/183 "2021-05-08T12:22:15Z")

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> [@Something](#):
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> South America has been shifted thousands of miles east of where it once was. The size, shape, and location of countries and continents- Germany, Italy, Japan, Korea- are apparently being altered on a daily basis.
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> The famous series of paintings depicting dogs playing poker have been supernaturally altered from what hundreds of millions of human beings, myself included, distinctly recall them being.
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> Stouffer’s Stovetop Stuffing has been erased from the historical timeline (seriously).

How do you know these things you claim are true? What makes you immune to these supernatural machinations?

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/184 "2021-05-08T12:26:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How do you know these things you claim are true? What makes you immune to these supernatural machinations? -

The voices told him.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/185 "2021-05-08T12:53:54Z")

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Okay, I’ve been waiting for someone to zombify the Alternate-Ending-to-Big thread so I could bring this up, but this thread will do nicely.

A while back in the AEtB thread, someone kept pounding away at the Newlywed Game “Dat be the butt, Bob” as proof that Big really had an alternate ending, because the NG anecdote was supposedly proven. Except it wasn’t. Sometime in the 2000s, someone dug up a clip from the NG where the question was “Where was the weirdest place your wife had the urge to make whoopee?” (ugh) and the husband said “We were driving on the highway and she wanted to pull over and get busy at a rest stop.” When the wife was asked the same question, she looked adorably confused and said, “I dunno…was it in the ass?” Everyone roared with laughter, including her.

But that does not match the anecdote. The couple in the clip were Latino, not black. The wife was not a sassy black woman who answered immediately and with great confidence, as in the UL, which is really why that UL was so widespread. It was not a matter of “OMG, someone made a reference to anal sex on a show that was designed to elicit suggestive comments!” The real point of the UL was to “prove” that if you take Those People out of the ghetto, they will continue to act “ghetto”, and not even know they’re being inappropriate. It was about (what was not yet called) Ebonics, not about a risqué comment. **So it didn’t happen,** not the way the UL presented it.

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And I’m sure about Spaghetti-Os being Franco-American. When I was in elementary school and a certain commercial was on a lot, if someone in my class goofed up, they would say 🎶 “Uh-oh, Spaghetti-O!” and someone within earshot would respond 🎶 “Franco-American!”

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/186 "2021-05-08T13:02:32Z")

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> [@Something](#):
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> South America has been shifted thousands of miles east of where it once was. The size, shape, and location of countries and continents- Germany, Italy, Japan, Korea- are apparently being altered on a daily basis.

Have you discussed any of this with the Cartographers for Social Equality ?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OH1bZ0F3zVU/hqdefault.jpg "Cartographers for Social Equality - The West Wing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH1bZ0F3zVU)

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/187 "2021-05-08T13:14:34Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> The couple in the clip were Latino, not black. The wife was not a sassy black woman who answered immediately and with great confidence, as in the UL, which is really why that UL was so widespread. It was not a matter of “OMG, someone made a reference to anal sex on a show that was designed to elicit suggestive comments!” The real point of the UL was to “prove” that if you take Those People out of the ghetto, they will continue to act “ghetto”, and not even know they’re being inappropriate. It was about (what was not yet called) Ebonics, not about a risqué comment. **So it didn’t happen,** not the way the UL presented it.

So many examples of the “Mandela Effect” involve memories of a person speaking or acting in a more stereotypical way than they actually did. (You only have to go back two days on r/Retconned to find someone who distinctly remembers Ringo’s outburst at the end of “Helter Skelter” as “I got blisters on **me** fingers!”, when it’s actually **my**.)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/188 "2021-05-08T13:31:43Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> There have been lots of threads moved _to_ GD to allow full debate.
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> This is the first time I remember a thread being moved _from_ the austere halls of GD _to_ MPSIMS to allow silliness.

Hey, a first.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> May I say, your goatee is looking rather dashing today?

Thank you, new barber.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/189 "2021-05-08T13:32:30Z")

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One way I’ve heard it phrased: “Every time you remember a memory, it becomes less of a memory, and more of a story”.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/190 "2021-05-08T13:40:54Z")

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I remember _The Lathe of Heaven_ being written by Madeleine L’Engle.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/191 "2021-05-08T13:50:40Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> mail it to many people, along with a copy to yourself.

And be sure to use a Security Envelope!

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/192 "2021-05-08T14:02:45Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> OK, this thread has become completely silly.

_You’re_ completely silly.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/193 "2021-05-08T14:26:26Z")

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Well yeah, about the KFC thing, it was because, back then, they made real chickens

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/194 "2021-05-08T14:32:43Z")

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Personally, I always think the third drumstick is the tastiest.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/195 "2021-05-08T14:36:50Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Have you discussed any of this with the Cartographers for Social Equality ?

The thing of it is…that actually seems like a likely explanation for @Something’s contention that the physical geography of the world has changed. The maps they remember from childhood may well have been Mercator and/or similar projections, which do in fact distort the “size, shape, and location of countries and continents…” If they’re only now learning that Greenland is actually only a small fraction of the size of Africa, it may well feel like the ground is literally shifting beneath their feet.

That clip really does a good job of showing just how much of what a lot of people think they know about geography is due to distorted map projections, and how disorienting it is to realize just how distorted their perceptions really are.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/196 "2021-05-08T14:49:23Z")

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umm, that’s not a drumstick…

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/197 "2021-05-08T14:57:37Z")

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Don’t you have three-legged chickens in your timeline??

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/198 "2021-05-08T14:58:53Z")

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Only if they lose a leg in an accident. Ours have 4 of course.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/199 "2021-05-08T15:07:11Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> umm, that’s not a drumstick…

A chicken neck?

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/200 "2021-05-08T15:17:03Z")

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Clearly? You mean like with a magnifying glass?

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