# The Physical Geography of the world and our historical timeline are being supernaturally changed as I type this

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576 "2021-05-07T05:41:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/41 "2021-05-07T15:14:31Z")

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> [@Something](#):
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> Stove Top Stuffing was, as millions of people like myself and k9bfriender and Kevin James remember distinctly, produced by Stouffer’s corporation, NOT Kraft

From a little googling:

The Stove Top Stuffing brand was [acquired by Kraft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stove_Top_stuffing) in 1995.

Nestlé had acquired Stouffer’s corporation in 1973, and there were [various complicated reorganizations](https://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/39/Stouffer-Corp.html) and shifting around of brands over the years. In the early 1990s Nestlé reorganized to leave Stouffer Corp. with frozen foods as its sole business.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/42 "2021-05-07T15:24:33Z")

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So, with any conspiracy, I have to ask, who’s doing it and what do they have to gain?

Are these changes done for a reason, or are they errors in the Matrix? Are we supposing that the simulation that we are living in has a poorer memory than human memory, a memory I may point out, that is running on the same system that is having these errors?

Why is the conspiracy not that your mind is being tampered with, to give you false memories? That would be far easier than doing things like moving South America thousands of miles and convincing almost everyone that it’s always been that way.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/43 "2021-05-07T15:28:13Z")

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I actually agree that Korea is moving. Just 27 years ago it was right beneath me and now its on the other side of the world.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/44 "2021-05-07T15:32:57Z")

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I think O.P. is outing the Department of Diachronic Operations.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/45 "2021-05-07T15:37:18Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> So, with any conspiracy, I have to ask, who’s doing it and what do they have to gain?

Also, like any conspiracy, why are “the powers” so terrible at their job? “Okay, lets change the name of the Berenstein Bears, but let a bunch of people remember how it was.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/46 "2021-05-07T15:37:43Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I saw the Y disappear from my Jiffy jar.

You’re lucky - my peanut butter has disappeared entirely!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/47 "2021-05-07T15:39:45Z")

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> [@Something](#):
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> No one has yet responded to my Dogs Playing Poker argument, either.

I wasn’t aware it was an argument. More shifting, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/48 "2021-05-07T15:41:30Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> For now, I am moving this into GD where witnessing is permitted.

Where was it originally? (And is there a way to see this in Discourse?)

I thought the OP had started it in Great Debates (and wondered what we were supposed to be Debating), and wondered if it might be a better fit for MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/49 "2021-05-07T15:49:57Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> …and wondered if it might be a better fit for MPSIMS.

We all know where it’s going to end up. Given the supernatural forces at play.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/50 "2021-05-07T15:52:49Z")

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People really shouldn’t read Larry Niven while smoking weed.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/51 "2021-05-07T15:57:00Z")

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This is what happens when you eat the red M&M, rather than the blue one.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/52 "2021-05-07T15:57:52Z")

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[Dogs Playing Poker](https://www.google.com/search?q=dogs+playing+poker&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALeKk03p8eZC7S1za1IUli5OkOkUW_zmvg%3A1620402705954&source=hp&biw=1080&bih=1778&ei=EWKVYKP6N5GMwbkPgrqxkAo&oq=dogs+playing+poker&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAA6BAgjECc6CAgAELEDEIMBOgUIABCxA1CPB1i1HmC_IGgAcAB4AIABWogB6gqSAQIxOJgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1n&sclient=img&ved=0ahUKEwjjxre99rfwAhURRjABHQJdDKIQ4dUDCAY&uact=5)

There are and always were more than one version.

> **[The Story Behind the Iconic ‘Dogs Playing Poker’ Paintings](https://mymodernmet.com/dogs-playing-poker-painting/)**
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> Find out how these iconic paintings came to be.

> It’s not commonly known, but _ **Dogs Playing Poker** _ by Cassius Marcellus Coolidge refers to not just one painting, but 18 of them! The series includes the artist’s original _Poker Game_ (1894) painting, along with 16 other oil paintings commissioned in 1903 by Brown & Bigelow to advertise cigars, and an additional 1910 painting. All eighteen of these paintings feature comical, humanized dogs; however, only eleven of the paintings actually depict poker-faced pups playing cards around a table.

Five seconds of Googling and an entire conspiracy theory disappears! Now that’s the way the world should always work.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/53 "2021-05-07T15:58:09Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> This is what happens when you eat the red M&M, rather than the blue one.

The one with nuts.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/54 "2021-05-07T16:06:00Z")

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This is the kind of conspiracy theory where it seems at first glance it would be fun to dig down and see what leads people astray. What is the evidence our OP touts when he writes:

> This is something real I’m describing to anyone who will look at the evidence and see, maybe just maybe, that this is not just “False Memory Syndrome.”

And then it turns out the evidence is just “we remember it differently!” Perhaps sometimes a few citations deep in a “according to this website” references, but in the end it’s boring old “but how could I remember this so clearly if it’s not true!?”

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/55 "2021-05-07T16:07:46Z")

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I think that the inevitable answer to that is that some subset of those involved in implementing the conspiracy sabotage it as they want us to find out.

> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> it might be a better fit for MPSIMS.

Don’t you mean MPTIMS?

> [@How many flagged/reported posts per day?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-flagged-reported-posts-per-day/937951/27):
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> No. We certainly get some of those, but they are less common than the ones I listed. I may underestimate those as they may be less common in my moderation categories than in GD, but I’m pretty sure I have the general volume right. (Those posts probably get more people reporting them than most of the others, though. But Discourse shows all the reports of a post in one “lump”, so I don’t usually notice exactly how many people flagged something. One, two, many…) Oh, and hijack reports are prett…

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> They are generally more problematic in GQ than in IMHO, _ **MPTIMS** _, or Cafe Society, so I don’t get as many of those reports.

My emphasis.

Or did “they” change that too while we weren’t looking?

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**Author:** ![Something](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Something](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Something)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/56 "2021-05-07T16:08:09Z")

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Yes, as you can see in my OP, I am fully aware that “dogs playing poker” is a series of paintings, not just one painting.

However, the paintings that I and 100s of millions of other human beings distinctly recall detail for detail have been dramatically and completely altered.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/57 "2021-05-07T16:09:44Z")

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Do you remember where you were when you first saw these paintings? Do you remember the context?

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/58 "2021-05-07T16:10:05Z")

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> [@Something](#):
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> However, the paintings that I and 100s of millions of other human beings distinctly recall detail for detail have been dramatically and completely altered.

Pinterest is like hat.

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**Author:** ![Something](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Something](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Something)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/59 "2021-05-07T16:10:24Z")

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Also: when I started this thread, I DID originally post it to MPSIMS. It was moved to GD by a moderator, who also warned me about the sketchy nature of my post.

I put this in MPSIMS because I was fully aware that this is one of those “Strange yet profound life-changing things that don’t need to start as a debate, merely an opinion of a guy who wants to casually begin a friendly, non-vitriolic convo on the subject.”

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/60 "2021-05-07T16:12:15Z")

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Ther was a famous anti apartheid activist who died in the 1970s - Stephen Biko - and there was a movie about him in the 1980s. People who only knew the name of one famous antiapartheid activist knew the name Biko. Later when Mandela became widely known, people knew the name Mandela - but remembered the fact that a famous antiapartheid activist was dead. Hence their confusion

This video is discussing the marketing scheme that is the “Mandela Effect”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YGgUrj10HdM/maxresdefault.jpg "The Mandaellah Effekt") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGgUrj10HdM)

> [@Something](#):
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> However, the paintings that I and 100s of millions of other human beings distinctly recall detail for detail have been dramatically and completely altered.

Cite that “100s of millions of people” agree with you, please.

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