# The Physical Geography of the world and our historical timeline are being supernaturally changed as I type this

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**Created:** [May 7, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576 "2021-05-07T05:41:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/101 "2021-05-07T18:22:17Z")

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The History of Time Travel is a great little movie about timelines changing under our noses

> **[Movie Review: The History of Time Travel](https://metawitches.com/2019/10/13/movie-review-the-history-of-time-travel/)**
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> Movie Review: The History of Time Travel- A mockumentary that asks the question, “What would happen if time travel were developed secretly, for personal reasons, by a single family of scienti…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/102 "2021-05-07T18:24:42Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@furryman](#):
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> > Is this a joke? Because Duncan Hines was a real person. -
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> Maybe in _your_ memory.

In my timeline, I took cooking lessons from Betty Crocker. She was very real, and told stories about Uncle Dunc as we baked cookies.

Good times.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/103 "2021-05-07T18:26:14Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Duncan Hines was a real person.

No, he wasn’t. He’s a fictional corporate mascot, created to humanize a corporate food product and create a false impression of homemade authenticity.

_Checks [Wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hines)_

Wait.

He was _real_!?

I’m starting to think there may be something to all of this after all…

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/104 "2021-05-07T18:27:55Z")

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Wait until he finds out what they did to Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/105 "2021-05-07T18:28:10Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> _Checks [Wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hines)_
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> Wait.
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> He was _real_ !?

The wikipedia article doesn’t mention it, but Betty told me that he survived the Bowling Green Massacre.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/106 "2021-05-07T18:28:17Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> In my timeline, I took cooking lessons from Betty Crocker. She was very real, and told stories about Uncle Dunc as we baked cookies.
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> Good times. -

“Cookies are an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.”

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/107 "2021-05-07T18:30:07Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Cookies are an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.”

I wish: a moment on the lips, forever on the hips. Some illusion. Shift away, I say!!!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/108 "2021-05-07T18:33:49Z")

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I think Opus (the Penguin) was in love with Betty.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/109 "2021-05-07T18:35:13Z")

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in my timeline, it was Milo.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/110 "2021-05-07T18:35:57Z")

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There’s a comic featuring Ed Wood ensemble acto Tor Johnson and pin up queen Betty Page. It’s called- Tor Love Betty. One page has Tor asking “Tor love Betty?” while picturing various women- Betty Page, Betty Rubble etc. The final panel is show Tor thinking of Betty Crocker and saying “Tor love Betty!”

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/111 "2021-05-07T18:45:10Z")

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What’s all this about the locations of Germany, Japan, etc. changing? I haven’t heard that one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/112 "2021-05-07T18:48:00Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> What’s all this about the locations of Germany, Japan, etc. changing? I haven’t heard that one. -

It’s the work of VPNs.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/113 "2021-05-07T18:51:29Z")

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“Overhyped, but basically a good broad”

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/114 "2021-05-07T19:01:33Z")

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Wait, Opus was in love with _Milo_?

This changes everything!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/115 "2021-05-07T19:23:26Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> The Stuffing is so easy to explain. Stouffers sounds like stuffing. Stouffers is also known for prepared meals. So it’s an easy link in the mind.

No, I’m married to a Stouffer (not one of those) and she makes excellent stuffing. That explains everything.  
Or I think I’m married to her. I’d better check.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/116 "2021-05-07T19:39:57Z")

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This is not a recent fenomo. . .phnylno. . .thing, people. Why, in 1795 you couldn’t find a map with Poland on it because it had _completely vanished!_

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/117 "2021-05-07T20:19:41Z")

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OK, let’s take the South America thing. You’re referring, I think, to the fact that you imagine it as being directly south of North America, but all of the maps show it significantly further east than that, such that the entire continent is east of the longitude of Detroit.

Your premise, as I understand it, is that Someone is capable of moving whole continents, and editing all of the records, on book, film, electronic files, etc., to match the now-moved continental positions. But for some reason, this Someone is either incapable or unwilling to similarly edit peoples’ memories, so folks still remember the original locations.

Well, that’s an odd premise, but for the sake of argument, I’ll go with it, and therefore answer this based only on my own memories (because obviously, any non-memory cite I could find would also be edited), and see where that gets us.

Memory one: It was first pointed out to me that all of South America is east of Detroit, some time in high school. That was back in the 1990s. So if this change did happen, it must have been some time before that. When do your memories of South America’s position date back to? If they were after the 90s, then you can’t possibly have been remembering the pre-change continent.

Memory two: I remember learning in history class of the disputes between Spain and Portugal (at the time, the only two countries seriously in the exploration business) about who had claim to the New World. The dispute was settled by the Pope (the only authority both countries recognized), who chose a line of longitude, and decreed that any new lands found east of that line belonged to Portugal, and any west of that line belonged to Spain.

Ah, but here’s the relevant part: Most of the Americas turn out to be west of that line, except that Brazil protrudes east of it. And so Portugal got claim to Brazil, but Spain got everything else. And here’s the kicker: That’s why Brazilians today speak Portugese, but Spanish is spoken everywhere else in Central and South America. And that’s something that this mysterious Someone didn’t change: We already said that Whoever it is doesn’t change memories, right? Well, how could you change what language millions of people speak, without changing their memories? Surely, they remember what language they used to speak, don’t they?

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/118 "2021-05-07T20:23:30Z")

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Respectfully, ‘You cannot use logic to argue some one out of position that they did not arrive at by logic’

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/119 "2021-05-07T20:34:50Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> He was _real_ !?

So was [Chef Boyardee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_Boyardee).

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**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-physical-geography-of-the-world-and-our-historical-timeline-are-being-supernaturally-changed-as-i-type-this/941576/120 "2021-05-07T20:39:33Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Five seconds of Googling and an entire conspiracy theory disappears! Now that’s the way the world should always work.

Well, could you take it up full time, please? There are enough goofball conspiracy theories out there that need whacking.

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