# The pigeon commercial for some insurance company **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 23, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521 "2024-01-23T02:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/1 "2024-01-23T02:14:36Z")
That’s that Benjamin guy who voices Archer. I know that. One of the ads, he says he has homing pigeon in his DNA. And the other pigeon(don’t know who voices him) says he should get a smart watch for GPS, because the he asks him which direction is north and Archer voiced pigeon points up. Why is up not north? Isn’t this a big ball we live on? Falling thru space at very fast speeds, with no brakes…wait…I just freaked me out. I gotta take deep breaths. Ok. I’m back. Whew. Any way, up is up. Up is north. On the map the north pole is north. The north pole is up. On the big ball that is up. On the map the South pole is south or down. We won’t discuss east and west. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/2 "2024-01-23T02:31:06Z")
He also voices Bob from Bobs Burgers. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/3 "2024-01-23T03:06:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Why is up not north? Isn’t this a big ball we live on? Beck, do you actually think straight up into the sky is north? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/4 "2024-01-23T03:19:15Z")
Well kinda, sorta. It’s according to how I’m placed on this ball. (And if I stay planted firmly);😉 ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/5 "2024-01-23T03:22:06Z")
So if you were at the North pole… ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/6 "2024-01-23T03:37:20Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > It’s according to how I’m placed on this ball. No. You’re projecting your frame of reference on a model (a globe), rather than using that model’s frame of reference. Looking at a globe, “up”, from the reference of being on that globe, is “out”. “Down” is “in”. South/North is simply “towards the South/North Pole”. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/7 "2024-01-23T03:53:46Z")
What if I laying down? Huh? Ha! Just answer that one. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/8 "2024-01-23T04:41:30Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > He also voices Bob… And many, many others. All Exactly The Same. Nice work if you can get it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/9 "2024-01-23T04:57:57Z")
I know lots of things that are up that are in the parlance of going north. And many things going down that are south. 😏 I bet you can think of some. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/10 "2024-01-23T05:08:37Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > What if I laying down? Huh? Ha! Just answer that one. But what if you’re in Australia laying down? Up/north would be completely different - almost opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/11 "2024-01-23T05:55:55Z")
Aaaaacccckkk! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/12 "2024-01-23T06:46:46Z")
Think about this: Outside of a very small circle around the pole, if you are standing on the planet and want to point at the pole — not north, but at the pole itself — you will need to point toward the ground, because the horizon falls away and there is planet between you and the pole. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/13 "2024-01-23T06:50:45Z")
Oh, that clarified it. Yep. I can sleep now. Why, thank you very much.🙃 ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/14 "2024-01-23T06:52:30Z")
Jon Benjamin has taken the spot formerly filled by Lorenzo Music - “One Voice Guy Who Gets Lots of Gigs.” ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/15 "2024-01-24T12:27:00Z")
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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/16 "2024-01-24T18:52:24Z")
Did you know the moon looks ‘upside down’ from the southern hemisphere? It’s one of the reasons I haven’t pursued monetizing the ad space. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/17 "2024-01-24T19:04:47Z")
Now yer just trying to fuzz up my already overtaxed brain. 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/18 "2024-01-24T23:10:36Z")
Here, let’s fuzz it a bit further. First, some history on the issue: > **[OPINION: How the north ended up on top of the map](http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/maps-cartographycolonialismnortheurocentricglobe.html)** > > A cartographic history of what’s up > Some of the very earliest Egyptian maps show the south as up, presumably equating the Nile’s northward flow with the force of gravity. And there was a long stretch in the medieval era when most European maps were drawn with the east on the top. If there was any doubt about this move’s religious significance, they illuminated it with [their maps’ pious illustrations](, whether of Adam and Eve or Christ enthroned. In the same period, Arab map makers often [drew maps] with the [south facing up], possibly because this was how the Chinese did it. And then some different perspective on projections: > **[Five maps that will change how you see the world](https://theconversation.com/five-maps-that-will-change-how-you-see-the-world-74967)** > > Nothing is where you think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/19 "2024-01-24T23:35:42Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vVX-PrBRtTY/hqdefault.jpg "Gall--Peters Projection") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVX-PrBRtTY) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521/20 "2024-01-25T00:18:54Z")
I’m dealing with the fact I got a notification from Sonic, they now have Peanut butter/Bacon milkshakes. Which caused the North Pole to shift a degree or two one dang direction(down) or another. This problem with pigeons, up or down, north or south, the Mason-Dixon line, social injustices of the world and climate change means so much **nothing** now. So so much. 😱 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pigeon-commercial-for-some-insurance-company/996521.md?page=2)