# The pitting of a bigoted Jew **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771 "2009-02-28T06:33:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/121 "2009-03-03T00:01:39Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Consider my already given analogies: > > Chinese individual discussing McDonald’s in the Forbidden City: “The Forbidden City should be Chinese.” > > A Frenchman complaining about the rise of sandwich shops for lunches supplanting bistros: “I regret that Paris is no longer as French as it should be.” > > Both of these and our Pittee have a certain cultural elitism perhaps, but nothing that evinces bigotry. > > Our Pittee want Israel to be culturally what he considers to be Jewish. Jewish food, Jewish holidays off, shops all closed Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, etc. There is nothing there that regrets the presence of non-Jews who would eat pork (which would not be Arabs but Christians). Well there are some Christian Arabs … but that’s a quibble. I generally agree. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/122 "2009-03-03T00:34:19Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Consider my already given analogies: > > Chinese individual discussing McDonald’s in the Forbidden City: “The Forbidden City should be Chinese.” I don’t see this attitude as offensive as **Shinn’s** attitude because the land that is Israel has always been peopled by a variety folks…not just observant Jews. Keeping McDonald’s and other commercial entities out of a historical place is not, on its face offensive. If someone was to argue (as **Shinn** suggested) that it’s a shame that signs of Western culture have seeped into China, I wouldn’t be surprised if that person was pitted. > [@](#): > > A Frenchman complaining about the rise of sandwich shops for lunches supplanting bistros: “I regret that Paris is no longer as French as it should be.” I wouldn’t surprised if such a person found themselves pitted, especially by British expats. > [@](#): > > Both of these and our Pittee have a certain cultural elitism perhaps, but nothing that evinces bigotry. I’m not hung up on whether his attitude is bigotted or not. I just think his opinion is kind of sucky and it’s not surprising that people have found it insensitive enough to pit. Cultural elitism tends not to go over well here. > [@](#): > > Our Pittee want Israel to be culturally what he considers to be Jewish. Jewish food, Jewish holidays off, shops all closed Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, etc. There is nothing there that regrets the presence of non-Jews who would eat pork (which would not be Arabs but Christians). My point was I don’t think you can infer what his attitudes are towards Arabs (Christian, Muslim, or whatever). Would I be surprised if someone who wants a more Jewish country to have a problem with living with non-Jews? No. But I don’t think we have enough to go on either way. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/123 "2009-03-03T01:41:57Z")
That and the fact that while he wants Israel to be a Jewish state, he’s settler in the West Bank. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/124 "2009-03-03T02:26:57Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Complaining that facilities exist that cater to people who are different than me, simply on the grounds that they are different (or “not as Jewish”) strikes me as unjustifiably intolerant. It’s akin to wishing only liberal people posted on the SDMB or complaining about overweight people at the beach. There’s something more than just “silly” about these particular attitudes. Thanks for this, you have captured what I am trying to say perfectly. Implicit is “not keeping Kosher” is that I am of a different religion or not devout enough. This is what upset me. If he complained that kosher places were hard to find, or didn’t offer a diverse enough range of offerings I would support him. He is trying to impose his view of religion on others (even if not actively) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/125 "2009-03-03T04:47:41Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > He is trying to impose his view of religion on others (even if not actively) Someone somehow please show me how he is “trying to impose” his view on religion on others. Do you think his participation on the board is a covert attempt to change Jewish society ? Maybe he’s an agent for a super secret Jewish organization assigned to infiltrate the SDMB and influence American support for Kosher so America can pressure Israel to go more Kosher. Trying to change world opinion ? Look, if you buy that then I have a doozy for you. From [Radio Islam](http://radioislam.org/judaism/kosher.htm) > [@](#): > > The Secret > KOSHER TAX > That Raises Food Prices > A Special Report put out by: THE TRUTH AT LAST - P.O. Box 1211, Marietta, Georgia 30061 > > Non-Jews are unaware that all food products marked with the “K” or “U” Symbols have been TAXED by Jewish Rabbis! > > Note: Each nation has its own symbol. Check in local Jewish publications, to find out what mark of the beast, is being used in your own country. > > On every pantry shelf in America, lay dozens of canned and packaged food products which have a tiny “K” or “U” printed on the label. > > This symbol informs Orthodox Jews that the items have been checked by a rabbi, to make sure that they have been prepared in accordance with “Jewish Dietary law”, as set forth in the Jewish Talmud -(the real “bible” of the Jews.) > > American food companies are forced to pay multi-billions of dollars to several Orthodox Jewish organizations, just so an estimated 10% to 20% of Jewry, (or 800,000 to no more than 1.2 million Orthodox Jews), will buy their products. Please bear in mind that this is a country of 270 million people, and we are all forced to pay this Kosher Tax, just to appease LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION! > > This comes out of your pocket ! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/126 "2009-03-03T05:04:44Z")
**Dutchman** -where did you find that site-that’s hysterical!!! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/127 "2009-03-03T05:26:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Dutchman** -where did you find that site-that’s hysterical!!! Anti Jewish sites aren’t all that hard to find. Unfortunately. But I defend their right… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771/128 "2009-03-03T17:51:17Z")
Oh, I do too. I’m just saying it’s so out there-conspiracy nuts always amuse me. (Like the Stormfront morons) ETA: I’m NOT saying that anti-semitism, or that bigotry is funny. But nutjobs are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pitting-of-a-bigoted-jew/487771.md?page=6)