# The players tried to leave the field, the marching band refused to yield, what details have been concealed, the way they tased this guy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 16, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216 "2023-09-16T19:45:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/181 "2023-09-20T21:13:11Z")
> [@Kirstin](#): > > If I were a cop I’d have had my fill of this idiot, then him flailing all around, making my job that much more difficult - and dangerous! I’d say “Basta!” and zap him out of commission so I can finish the work I still have to do, all on account of this self-entitled turd. It is a straight line from the police believing this kind of stuff to the killing of George Floyd. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/182 "2023-09-20T21:13:36Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > There’s a legitimate public safety concern with letting people loiter in the venue after the event has concluded, and it’s obtuse to pretend otherwise. The marching playing out its final set is not loitering. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/183 "2023-09-20T21:16:37Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > The marching playing out its final set is not loitering. There’s no “final set”. The whistle plays, the fireworks go off, and they play the fight song or another ditty if the outcome wasn’t triumphant. You don’t sit around playing encores after that, you’re packing it up and packing it in. I will repeat for the umpteenth time, why did the home director find it so difficult to wrap his show when the away director had already stood down, and police had already told him multiple times to quit? He wanted to be the main character, and he got his wish. ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/184 "2023-09-20T21:17:27Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > As I have been saying repeatedly in this thread, it’s very telling the way that people want to engage every possible scenario except for the one that actually happened. I mentioned that as an anology to something Beck wrote. I’ve been arguing the facts that the police behavior was based only on their wish to go home. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Why are we insisting this request was unreasonable or impossible when the other school’s band was already packed up and moving out? It’s absurd. Whats absurd is using violence because the officers felt their egos get threatened by being told to wait a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/185 "2023-09-20T21:17:51Z")
> [@Kirstin](#): > > That band leader got exactly what he had coming to him. If I were a cop I’d have had my fill of this idiot, then him flailing all around, making my job that much more difficult - and dangerous! I’d say “Basta!” and zap him out of commission so I can finish the work I still have to do, all on account of this self-entitled turd. Well then, I’m glad you aren’t a cop… ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/186 "2023-09-20T21:18:17Z")
I worked at the Band concessions at every ball game my 4 kids were at. Police had to stay on scene with us after the game. We had to clean the concession stand. Leave door unlocked to go back and forth and there was lots and lots of money and goods that could be taken from us. It was a safety issue. There were always people milling around. Some kids waiting on rides. Some people up to nefarious actions. Administration couldn’t leave til we were done. The maintenance crews would be cleaning and checking locks. It’s not a pleasant scene. Of course they wanted any extra persons gone. As soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/187 "2023-09-20T21:18:33Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I will repeat for the umpteenth time, why did the home director find it so difficult to wrap his show when the away director had already stood down… The bands were taking turns. The other director had finished his song. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/188 "2023-09-20T21:18:44Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > A band director shouldn’t let his ego stand in the way of safety first. Safety? How was he standing in the way of safety? ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/189 "2023-09-20T21:19:20Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > There’s no “final set”. The whistle plays, the fireworks go off, and they play the fight song or another ditty if the outcome wasn’t triumphant. You don’t sit around playing encores after that, you’re packing it up and packing it in. And you know the rules of this stadium, how exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/190 "2023-09-20T21:20:10Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > High school football games can get dangerous when people loiter after closing. Did you miss the part where the stands were empty? ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/191 "2023-09-20T21:21:08Z")
Then why did they turn out the lights? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/192 "2023-09-20T21:22:28Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > I mentioned that as an anology to something Beck wrote. I’ve been arguing the facts that the police behavior was based only on their wish to go home. Yeah, but that’s not a fact, that’s your personal take on some dialog. Here’s the more accurate take: “You’re costing the city money by loitering, and you’re going to get billed for it.” > [@](#): > > Whats absurd is using violence because the officers felt their egos get threatened by being told to wait a minute. Which again, is entirely your guess about what the officers thought and felt, when common sense indicates that they’re just trying to do their job and keep the public safe by closing out an after-dark event after it was finished. It’s not a freaking Grateful Dead concert. Buzzer goes off, you go home. Repeating for the umpteenth time, the away team didn’t seem to have any confusion about routine and customary behavior in this situation, and amazingly enough their director wasn’t detained. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/193 "2023-09-20T21:23:33Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I will repeat for the umpteenth time, why did the home director find it so difficult to wrap his show when the away director had already stood down Because the two directors agreed that each band would play three songs after the game. The visiting band had already finished their third song, and the home band was playing theirs. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/194 "2023-09-20T21:24:08Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > And you know the rules of this stadium, how exactly? I’ve been to about a zillion school sports events, both as player, spectator, and conductor, so I know a bit about how what’s expected. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/195 "2023-09-20T21:24:57Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Why are we insisting this request was unreasonable or impossible when the other school’s band was already packed up and moving out? It’s absurd. It sounds like the bands were taking turns and the other band was already done when the police rode in on blazing saddles. So that’s kinda irrelevant. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > High school football games can get dangerous when people loiter after closing. It’s routine for people to leave as the bands play. I am failing to connect the dots between “it’s time to clear the stands” and “we need the band to stop this exact instant” > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Just to say: I’ve never endorsed tazing this individual. Ever. But that’s why this is in the news. If the police had quietly arrested some random band leader without attacking him, we would never have heard of the incident, and probably wouldn’t care if we had. And he’d probably have been processed and have a court date where the whole thing would have been thrown out when the arresting officer didn’t bother to show up. That’s how these things generally play out. If the police had just quietly stood there around him, insisting that they were arresting him for disorderly conduct until he tired of arguing (or if he’d actually become violent) we wouldn’t be arguing today. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/196 "2023-09-20T21:26:04Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Obeying authority is exactly what 15 to 18 yos need to learn. Without obeying authority, we wouldn’t have strip searches in McDonalds bathrooms > **[Strip search phone call scam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam)** > > The strip search phone call scam was a series of incidents, mostly occurring in rural areas of the United States, that extended over a period of at least ten years, starting in 1994. The incidents involved a man calling a restaurant or grocery store, claiming to be a police officer, and then convincing managers to conduct strip searches of employees (or at least in two known cases, a customer), and to perform other bizarre and humiliating acts on behalf of "the police". The calls were most ofte... ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/197 "2023-09-20T21:26:22Z")
I would like to know that as well. The Stadium lights would go out at our highschool by some administration person unlocking a door and flipping a lever. They did it after the maintenance crew were done in the stands. And all gates locked. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/198 "2023-09-20T21:28:52Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > The marching playing out its final set is not loitering. > > There’s no “final set”. The evidence shows otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/199 "2023-09-20T21:29:33Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > Because the two directors agreed that each band would play three songs after the game. The visiting band had already finished their third song, and the home band was playing theirs. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > It sounds like the bands were taking turns and the other band was already done when the police rode in on blazing saddles. So that’s kinda irrelevant. No, that’s not documented. Someone upthread suggested maybe they saw something where someone said maybe this was the case. Nobody has any idea if it happened, again people are engaging with what they wish was true instead of what’s in evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-players-tried-to-leave-the-field-the-marching-band-refused-to-yield-what-details-have-been-concealed-the-way-they-tased-this-guy/990216/200 "2023-09-20T21:34:06Z")
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