# The Poetry of Donald J. Trump -- Special Fly Paper Edition

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [October 17, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708 "2023-10-17T15:42:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/21 "2023-10-18T13:49:33Z")

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LORD OF THE _f_LIES 🪰

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/22 "2023-10-18T13:50:59Z")

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Thread over. You win!

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/23 "2023-10-18T14:00:38Z")

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Maybe what we need to counter Trump is to hang up some LIE paper, amirite? 😁

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/24 "2023-10-18T15:28:34Z")

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Personally, I’d prefer the appropriately sized electronic LIE zapper, although the stench would be hideous.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/25 "2023-10-18T15:35:20Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> LORD OF THE _f_LIES 🪰

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Thread over. You win!

Agreed.  
👏 👏 👏

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/26 "2023-10-18T15:43:12Z")

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I’m just having trouble getting past the “You have flies in Iowa?” I mean seriously, what place _doesn’t_ have flies?

And of course they’re attracted to shit, which is why they were buzzing around Trump.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/27 "2023-10-18T15:48:14Z")

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Does anyone know where to get Trump paper?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/28 "2023-10-18T15:53:45Z")

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Classified or unclassified?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/29 "2023-10-18T15:56:29Z")

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Either way the answer is Mar A Lago’s bathroom

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/30 "2023-10-18T16:21:11Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’m just having trouble getting past the “You have flies in Iowa?” I mean seriously, what place _doesn’t_ have flies?

I _know_. It shows his very limited tiny sphere of experience. NYC to NJ to Florida and back again. That’s about it.

> [@Babale](#):
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> Either way the answer is Mar A Lago’s bathroom

Flies or files???

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/31 "2023-10-18T16:39:33Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> Does anyone know where to get Trump paper?

I gotcher trump paper right here, my man!  
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1ZHCEB/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1ZHCEB/)

It’s even got the familiar abbreviation: TP.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/32 "2023-10-18T21:58:02Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> Personally, I’d prefer the appropriately sized electronic LIE zapper, although the stench would be hideous.

Given Tan the Conman’s atrocious diet, I’d venture to say the stench is already hideous.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/33 "2023-10-27T20:04:18Z")

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I think I’ve seen some of your videos where the flies come back and introduce you to their new baby flies. It heartwarming. I love YouTube vids.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/34 "2023-10-30T11:48:11Z")

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This showed up over the weekend. There’s no transcript, aside from what I reproduce here. And you couldn’t pay me enough to listen to the video to corroborate it.

There’s no real value in my setting this one up in blank verse form. it already stands proud in its incoherent glory:

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> I can’t imagine myself being a politician — it has cost me a couple of billion dollars to be a politic — everyone else makes — they make — I said no we can’t do that — I could’ve made a fortune — countries are coming — we’ve got to build a job, and we’d like to have you involved — billions I say — I tell my kids, sorry kids, we can’t do it, I’m President — I respected the office — and then I get out, and I see the stuff Biden’s been doing, and I say, well I did it the right way — you know (tittering) — the money — and my kids say, dad could we build a job here or there — in the Middle East — certain countries — they got a lotta money — and they’d love to build a nice Trump job — no kids you can’t do that, it’s a conflict — I didn’t do that (sniff) — so I was willing — and the of course they made it much worse with legal fees — I have $100 million worth of legal fees — and they are doing good — at least I have a good lawyers — you could spend $100 million on lousy lawyers too — it happens (faint laughter from the crowd) — but no I said, I said, right from the beginning — I told Ben and Candy a long time ago — I said you know it’s incredible — as soon as you win, they start coming to you — wanna do this — and I told my kids you can’t do that, you can’t do that — too much respect for the office — and uh …

Intro:

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> Today, in Sioux City IA, Trump [talked about](https://www.c-span.org/video/?531310-1/president-trump-campaigns-sioux-city-iowa) his two favorite subjects — himself and money. He claimed that he had sacrificed $2 billion to become president, and had racked up $100 million in legal bills.
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> He lied. And the MAGAs seemed to enjoy themselves. So it was another satisfactory Sunday afternoon in Whitelandia.

> **[An incoherent Trump tells Iowans of his $2B sacrifice to be President &...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/10/29/2202394/-An-incoherent-Trump-tells-Iowans-of-his-2B-sacrifice-to-be-President-his-100M-in-legal-fees?utm_campaign=trending)**
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> On Sunday, in Sioux City IA, Trump talked about his two favorite subjects — himself and money. He claimed that he had sacrificed $2 billion to become president, and had racked up $100 million in legal bills. He lied. And the MAGAs seemed to enjoy...

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/35 "2023-10-30T12:26:03Z")

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I’ve been thinking about a good place to post a trump quote from a recent Vegas campaign appearance that caused me to do a hearty eye-roll, [from this article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/28/politics/trump-pence-endorsement-antisemitism-biden/index.html).

The ‘Schadenfreude’ thread? No, not quite a good fit. The outrage thread? Better, but it’s not really outrageous by trump standards. This quote from the article stood out to me for its absolute ironic cluelessness and lack of self-reflection. So, I think this thread is perfect.

trump is saying that, now that Pence has dropped out of the Presidential race, he should throw his support to trump, but the ungrateful jerk probably wouldn’t, purely out of spite just because of that little ‘hang Pence’ thing.

So, without further ado, the trump quote presented as poetry:

> _Because I had a great successful presidency,_  
> _and he was the vice president,_  
> _he should endorse me._
> 
> _I chose him, made him vice president._  
> _But … people in politics can be very disloyal._  
> _I’ve never seen anything like it.”_

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/36 "2023-10-30T13:06:36Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> I use no-kill fly traps and humanely release them in a safe place outdoors.

I release mine at gop rallies.

Dan

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/37 "2023-10-30T13:50:46Z")

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Speaking of disloyal, isn’t that what someone who tries to get you lynched should be called?

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/38 "2023-10-30T14:01:55Z")

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The ‘example’ part of the dictionary definition of ‘disloyal’ should be updated.

The current Oxford Languages definition:

**dis·loy·al**  
/disˈloi(ə)l/

_adjective_

Failing to be loyal to a person, country, or body to which one has obligations.  
_“she felt that inquiring into her father’s past would be **disloyal to** her mother”_

* * *

**Proposed update to definition:**

Failing to be loyal to a person, country, or body to which one has obligations.  
_“donald trump has been **disloyal** to virtually every person, country, or body to which he has had obligations”_

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/39 "2023-10-30T15:04:48Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> So, without further ado, the trump quote presented as poetry:
> 
> > _Because I had a great successful presidency,_  
> > _and he was the vice president,_  
> > _he should endorse me._
> > 
> > _I chose him, made him vice president._  
> > _But … people in politics can be very disloyal._  
> > _I’ve never seen anything like it.”_

(clap clap clap)

Another great example of Trump Verse

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-poetry-of-donald-j-trump-special-fly-paper-edition/991708/40 "2023-11-01T03:51:26Z")

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trump is beginning to sound like Dutch Schultz. When Schultz was dying of gunshot wounds, he lingered long enough to deliver an incoherent rambling word salad, not unlike trump’s.

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