# The Pogues

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 5, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839 "2009-06-05T15:55:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/21 "2009-06-05T18:33:03Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> Not just my favorite Pogues song, but my favorite song period is “[Haunted](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Pogues_-_Haunted.ogg)”. But strangely it is not found on regular US album versions (including greatest hits collections).

He recorded it with the Popes for _The Snake_, with Sinead O’Connor doing the female vocals.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/22 "2009-06-05T19:18:33Z")

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> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#):
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> I have no desire to watch a biography of Shane MacGowan. Or, really, to ever look at him up close. Blergh.

Go ahead and watch it- the insights into Shane and his family are very cool, as well as an early history of the Pogues. If you love the music, you’ll love the film, even if it makes you a bit sad…

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/23 "2009-06-05T19:24:20Z")

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Could I watch it with the picture off?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/24 "2009-06-05T19:28:23Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> You can find “Haunted” on YouTube, plus you can get it on iTunes on an album called Emerald Rock (it’s a compilation).

Or (along with the song _Junk_) on the soundtrack to [“Sid and Nancy.”](http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Nancy-Pray-Rain/dp/B00005BJKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1244229915&sr=1-1)

The Pogues also contributed a number of tracks to the soundtrack for [“Straight to Hell,”](http://www.amazon.com/Straight-Hell-Returns-Various-Artists/dp/samples/B00022350I/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1) including a few instrumentals, _Rake at the Gates of Hell_ (which I’ve only seen as a Shane MacGowan and the Popes release otherwise), and a slowed-down, slightly more countryish version of _If I Should Fall From Grace With God_.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/25 "2009-06-05T19:44:36Z")

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_If I Should Fall From Grace With God_ is far and away my favorite album, and “Lullaby of London” is very dear to my heart. It’s just a gorgeous song.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/26 "2009-06-05T19:50:06Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Or (along with the song _Junk_) on the soundtrack to [“Sid and Nancy.”](http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Nancy-Pray-Rain/dp/B00005BJKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1244229915&sr=1-1)
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> The Pogues also contributed a number of tracks to the soundtrack for [“Straight to Hell,”](http://www.amazon.com/Straight-Hell-Returns-Various-Artists/dp/samples/B00022350I/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1) including a few instrumentals, _Rake at the Gates of Hell_ (which I’ve only seen as a Shane MacGowan and the Popes release otherwise), and a slowed-down, slightly more countryish version of _If I Should Fall From Grace With God_.

All of these and more are available on the Pogues box set [Just Look Them Straight in the Eye And Say Pogue Mahone!](http://www.amazon.com/Just-Look-Straight-Say-Pogue-Mahone/dp/B0017XFBMG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1244231231&sr=8-10), 5 discs of outtakes and rarities. Expensive, but essential for fans.

RS&TL is my favorite Pogues album, especially since they included the _Poguetry in Motion_ EP on the Rhino reissue. “London Girl”, “Rainy Night in Soho” and “The Body of An American” fit on there quite nicely.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/27 "2009-06-05T19:54:19Z")

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Oh yeah, forgot to address the OP. If I Should Fall From Grace With God is my favorite Pogues album with Rum Sodomy and the Lash a close second, but it’s hard to go wrong with any of them. I like Hell’s Ditch, and even Waiting for Herb has its moments, although MacGowan’s absence really puts it in another category. I think **Miller** hit the bullseye on that one - it’s a good Spider Stacy album rather than the Pogues.

If you’re buying CDs instead of downloading them, make sure you get the more recent remastered editions - each album has some additional material that the original releases didn’t. They’re mostly traditional songs (the Irish Rover, Mountain Dew, Leaving of Liverpool, etc.), and they’re well worth having.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/28 "2009-06-05T19:58:08Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> All of these and more are available on the Pogues box set [Just Look Them Straight in the Eye And Say Pogue Mahone!](http://www.amazon.com/Just-Look-Straight-Say-Pogue-Mahone/dp/B0017XFBMG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1244231231&sr=8-10), 5 discs of outtakes and rarities. Expensive, but essential for fans.

That looks amazing! Now I have to scrape together an extra $100 from somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/29 "2009-06-05T20:07:57Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> The Pogues also contributed a number of tracks to the soundtrack for [“Straight to Hell,”](http://www.amazon.com/Straight-Hell-Returns-Various-Artists/dp/samples/B00022350I/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1)

Of course I have that DVD too. 😃

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> If you’re buying CDs instead of downloading them, make sure you get the more recent remastered editions - each album has some additional material that the original releases didn’t. They’re mostly traditional songs (the Irish Rover, Mountain Dew, Leaving of Liverpool, etc.), and they’re well worth having.

My CDs are the first pressings, so I don’t get the extras. I do have _Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah_ and _The Very Best Of…_, which have tracks I didn’t otherwise get.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/30 "2009-06-05T20:13:17Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> That looks amazing! Now I have to scrape together an extra $100 from somewhere.

Check your inbox.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/31 "2009-06-05T20:15:57Z")

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People seem interested in pointing out places “Haunted” has appeared since I mentioned it upthread. Other places:

The duet version with Sinéad O’Connor was also used in “The Matchmaker” (and had another Popes song). Also used in the “Two If By Sea” soundtrack. Both films starred Dennis Leary. Maybe a fan of the song as well?

The Atlanta women’s band Amanda Jones did an excellent cover way back when. (Which is impossible to find apparently.)

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**Author:** ![RedRosesForMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RedRosesForMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedRosesForMe)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/32 "2009-06-05T20:33:21Z")

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So I’m listening to RRfM right now, not that I ever need an excuse to listen to the Pogues.

I remember how my friends and I couldn’t figure out the chorus of Poor Paddy. Cordouroy britches? OK. Digging ditches? OK. Pulling switches? OK. Dodging- what? Bitches? Itches? Wha??

It must have been a year before somebody figured out it was hitches. I :smack: ed myself when he told me, I had recently watched a show on trains that discussed the dangerous method of hitching train cars by hand. It noted you could always tell an inexperienced (railroad) fireman because he still had all of his fingers.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/33 "2009-06-05T20:52:52Z")

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The Snake is probably my favourite Shane McGowan song, although there are so many great ones.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/34 "2009-06-06T02:56:09Z")

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I start almost every shift on the ambulance with “The Turkish Song of the Damned.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/35 "2009-06-07T14:25:58Z")

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> [@St.Urho](#):
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> I start almost every shift on the ambulance with “The Turkish Song of the Damned.” 🙂

If I worked in an ambulance, I probably would too. 😃 It is one of my all-time favourite songs …

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/36 "2009-06-07T15:20:02Z")

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It just sets a nice tone for the night, too 😃

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/37 "2009-06-07T16:19:13Z")

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> [@St.Urho](#):
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> It just sets a nice tone for the night, too 😃

Certainly a better tone than this one:

[http://www.lyricstime.com/the-pogues-four-o-clock-in-the-morning-lyrics.html](http://www.lyricstime.com/the-pogues-four-o-clock-in-the-morning-lyrics.html)

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/38 "2009-06-07T18:16:37Z")

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_Rum, Sodomy_ & _Fall From Grace w/ God_ are their two best, in my opinion. If I had to pick one song that really highlights MacGowan’s talent as a songwriter, I’d pick The Broad Majestic Shannon.

Damn, I love the Pogues. Caught the Low & Sweet Orchestra when they came through Athens, GA more than a decade ago, and my very young son just got his hands on the CD & cracked it in half. Bummer.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/39 "2009-06-08T05:19:47Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> If I had to pick one song that really highlights MacGowan’s talent as a songwriter, I’d pick The Broad Majestic Shannon.

My favorite part of that song is the bit with the robots.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pogues/498839/40 "2009-06-09T15:33:26Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Certainly a better tone than this one:
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> [http://www.lyricstime.com/the-pogues-four-o-clock-in-the-morning-lyrics.html](http://www.lyricstime.com/the-pogues-four-o-clock-in-the-morning-lyrics.html)

I didn’t know that song.

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