# The political rage that I feel is eating me up **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 9, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971 "2024-11-09T03:08:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/81 "2024-11-10T02:51:25Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > You actually believe “they”, which I assume you mean most of those who voted Trump, fantasize about killing people that don’t vote the same way you do ? No, not most Trump voters. The vast majority of Trump voters have no idea what they’re supporting, and do not want violence. I’m talking about what I read on right-wing message boards in various parts of the internet. There are hate sites, full of Trump supporters, that think political violence is good and necessary to restore this country. There is a minority in this country that is very tied in with Trump that wants violence. > [@BorealisCooper](#): > > So it’s more likely that you’re projecting your hate to 74+ million other people. I’m in a very bad spot right now. I’ll admit it. I will get over it eventually. But 74+ million people voted for a fascist, and I’m pretty damn pissed about it. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/82 "2024-11-10T02:55:55Z")
Trump will undo Obamacare. Many states, blue states, have a safety net for that. That youngster (i’m 20 years older) Mike Johnson wants me to go stock shelves at Target or something, so I can have health insurance? No, me and Mikes parenst are going to stay on Medicare. And no dumping that all into an Advantage plan. But I will need to do that (Target job) if he gets rid of my social security. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/83 "2024-11-10T02:56:59Z")
> [@Turki-lurki](#): > > I think we need to calm down. > A majority of our fellow Americans voted him in, and only a small fraction of them are full-on magats. Most are folks we work and socialize with. They are good people with political views that we cannot grasp. They are not all ku kluckers or Kristofascists. They won’t go along with witch burnings, concentration camps, or jailing liberals on sight. tRump and his immediate circle are contemptible trash, and they will cause harm. But we will recover. Couldn’t agree more. There’s been a total overreaction. I live in an area that’s probably 95% Republican, and they’re not bad people. Misguided, perhaps. But they’re certainly not racist/evil/Nazis. (And I’m saying this as someone who absolutely despises Trump.) I get the feeling a lot of Dopers are living in a bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/84 "2024-11-10T02:59:28Z")
First…quit reading rightwing internet sights spouting hate. People find it easy to spew hate online. They gotta get off their couches and actually do something. I’m willing to bet 95% couldn’t or wouldn’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/85 "2024-11-10T03:03:01Z")
It seems so. This is plain and simple fear talk. It reminds me of a dog who just got hit by a car, if you go near it, it screams in pain. If you touch it will bite you so hard and scream in pain. You can’t really help it. People just take a breath. If bad things come we’ll have to deal with it. We really have no choice. ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/86 "2024-11-10T03:04:09Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I get the feeling a lot of Dopers are living in a bubble. I don’t live in a bubble. I live in a county that voted over 75% for Trump. I know a lot of MAGA people. It’s not an over-reaction to be extremely agitated about a guy who tried to overturn an election becoming president again. We know he tried to trash our voting rights by overturning an election. We know he trashed women’s reproductive rights. We know he wanted the military to attack protesters. We know he’s talked openly about people shooting the media and guns being turned on Liz Cheney. We know he’s joked about the political violence that visited upon the Pelosi family. It’s not an over-reaction to be enraged by this election. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/87 "2024-11-10T03:04:19Z")
Yep. “The sky is falling!” We’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/88 "2024-11-10T03:04:22Z")
Among Trump’s last ‘official acts’ in his first term as President was to attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected US government. Would you have ever seen _that_ coming before about 2015? It isn’t about your neighbors. It’s about Trump and his cronies, and what each of us believes they _are and are not_ capable of doing. And if the attempted self-coup didn’t cause you to recalibrate, it might be a good reason to introspect a little. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/89 "2024-11-10T03:07:22Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > It’s about Trump and his cronies, and what each of us believes they _are and are not_ capable of doing. Trump thinks he has powers he doesn’t have. He will learn that soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/90 "2024-11-10T03:08:51Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Trump thinks he has powers he doesn’t have. He will learn that soon enough. The law no longer matters, so he has all the powers he wants. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/91 "2024-11-10T03:10:16Z")
So, you’re sure that the next Dan Quayle and Mike Pence will stop him from acting on his worst impulses … the next time? And … _did_ you see coming a sitting US President attempting to overthrow the legitimately elected US government? I didn’t. Kind of a big deal, though, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/92 "2024-11-10T03:10:20Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The law no longer matters, so he has all the powers he wants. [The sky is falling!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/93 "2024-11-10T03:10:32Z")
We all know this. How helpful is it to regurgitate it over and over? Get yourself prepped. Grocery up, ammo up. Find a way your family can be closer. Find a friend. Join a resistance group. Don’t know one, start one. Do something that helps. Bitchin’, moanin’ and gnashing your teeth are all for nought. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/94 "2024-11-10T03:11:44Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The law no longer matters, so he has all the powers he wants. Indeed. Who is stopping Trump now? Where are the brakes? Why on earth does anyone think Trump and his cronies will be restrained in his zeal for power? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/95 "2024-11-10T03:11:45Z")
You do know, right, that minimization and gaslighting aren’t actually arguments? Whether you think people are being hyperbolic or not, there _are no end_ of good reasons to be highly suspicious about what Trump might do in a Trump II. Summary denial is at least as powerful as catastrophization. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/96 "2024-11-10T03:12:50Z")
As long as the Constitution remains intact, we’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/97 "2024-11-10T03:14:09Z")
So … anyway … about the Alternate Slate of Electors plot, and the flash-bang grenade (January 6th) that was meant to facilitate its implementation … ? But for Mike Pence and Dan Quayle … What you’re offering are platitudes and minimization. Have at a Steel Man Argument. It’s good for the soul 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/98 "2024-11-10T03:14:41Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > As long as the Constitution remains intact, we’ll be fine. I can’t tell if you are kidding. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/99 "2024-11-10T03:15:26Z")
If nobody ever commits a crime, then there won’t be any crime. It’s a tautology. What – are you new here? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971/100 "2024-11-10T03:18:23Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > As long as the Constitution remains intact, we’ll be fine. Too bad it’s dead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-political-rage-that-i-feel-is-eating-me-up/1009971.md?page=6)