# The Pope says I'm a Nazi - or Godwin in one step **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997 "2010-09-16T18:40:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/61 "2010-09-17T05:56:43Z")
Blame socialized health care. Here in the states insurance would get her a real healer, maybe a Pentecostal that will swing a snake or two in her direction. Except we see that she has been treated by two Popes so this is clearly a pre-existing condition. Sucks to be her. ---
**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/62 "2010-09-17T08:32:13Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > He’s not saying that atheism \*may \*lead to Nazis; he’s saying that atheism \*will \*lead to Nazis. As an atheist I am not shocked or surprosed by the Popes comments, but I do find them a little offensive. Not least because, IIRC, Nazism was not a strictly atheist movement anyway. All of the leaders had expressed some kind of religious views and many were obsessed with occult items and places like Atlantis and the Spear of Destiny. Not really the actions of rational non believers. Hopefully this hateful attack will further diminish the influence that nutters like Ratzinger and his paedophile church have in the UK. ---
**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/63 "2010-09-17T09:04:30Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > No. While speculation about pagan and occult influences in Nazism is wildly overblown, the fact is that Nazis had little use for traditional Christianity, and Lutheran and Catholic pastors were persecuted by the Reich. WRONG. The protestant Christians split into the small [Bekennde Kirche](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessing_Church), who realized that as Christians, they had to stand against Euthanasia, concentration camps and killing people, and the bigger [Deutsche Christen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Christians), who thought they had a national duty to stand with the Reich. Only those pastors speaking out against the Nazi’s politics openly, like Niemöller and others, were persecuted. Those pastors of both confessions that helped hide Jews or went with their Jewish children to the concentration camp like that polnish pastor, died for that, not for being Christian. The Catholics were seen by the Nazis as problem not for being Christian, but for their allegiance to Rome, an outside force. Additionally, Christianity itself was seen as “weakness with semitism”, since Nazi ideology was that life was a battle which only the strong survive, so emphathy and helping the poor etc. was bad. At the same time the Nazi leaders realized that Christianity was rooted deep in the population both tradtionally and spiritualy, so they did not officially force conversion to their newly created Norse tradition. Locally, some low-level Nazi officals put pressure on people to stay away from Church or become Deutsche Christen. Some Nazi officials made public pagan ceremonies instead of a normal baptism for their children. Some days were celebrated publically with sun worship. Sects like Jehovahs witness were sent to concentration camps for their general being against the state (no oath, no army service), rather than specific christianity. That’s why Rudolf Hochhuth criticised the Pope in “[Der Stellvertreter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deputy)” for not speaking out against the Nazis, using the excuse of “it could get worse” though it was his moral duty to speak out against evil. (And in the early years, the Pope, along with the US, was too happy about the Nazis being anti-communist to care much about the rest of their ideology.) After the war, after all, the president of the newly founded Protestant Church of Germany, made the [Stuttgarter Declaration of Guilt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_Declaration_of_Guilt)because the Church had failed in their entirety and on behalf of most pastors to speak out more and act more against the wrongs of the Nazi regime. > [@](#): > > The Nazis hoped to subvert Christianity to their own ends by removing Jewish influences, notions of the salvation of all mankind, and ideas of mercy and producing what they termed a positive Christianity. Yes. Which is half of Christianity. But as you said - subverting. That meant no open terror and prosecution. Arresting a handful of pastors who spoke out on their pulpits or wrote leaflets was not a broad persecution for Christians in general. > [@](#): > > That means they were not traditionally Christian, and indeed traditionally Christian countries like the United States, Canada and Great Britain went to war with them. Um, that’s completly unrelated. The traditional Catholic countries of Italy and Spain were also ruled by fascist dictators, and there was no problem with that. The traditional Catholic country of Ireland wanted to ally with the Nazis to go against the UK. And the US, Canada, UK would not have gone to war with the Nazis over the religion issue. That was never a cause or reason for the war. For that matter, secular France was at war with the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/64 "2010-09-17T09:14:13Z")
Fuck the Pope, that statement is clearly the rantings of a religous loony and shouldn’t be taken any more seriously than that twat who wanted to burn the Koran. Or in fact those twats that got upset that he was going to burn the Koran. They’re all as bad as each other. I actually had a fantasy of turning up to one of the events in a comedy Pope costume with a massive rubber cock hanging out. Shame I have a job really, I’m pretty sure I would have got on the national news. ---
**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/65 "2010-09-17T09:16:57Z")
> [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > As the entire country goes completely fucking mental over the Pope I present, as a public service, a little sanity courtesy of Britain’s finest news source, [The Daily Mash](http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/queen-to-have-lunch-with-insane-criminal-201009163093/) 🙂 Thanks for that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/66 "2010-09-17T09:19:41Z")
What percentage of the UK is atheist these days anyway? A Nice high number I would hope. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/67 "2010-09-17T10:02:50Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I think what he said was perfectly defensible. > > He spoke of radically atheist regimes, and the danger of removing religion from public life. Are most atheists radical? Not in the West. Do most atheists advocate for the removal of religion from public life? Don’t think so. > > He warned against aggressive forms of secularism. That seems kind of in his job description to me. > > The overreaction of entities like the British Humanists amazes me, though it probably shouldn’t. Perhaps they should just let the Pope be Catholic. Then he should have shut the fuck up then. When i want a disapproving rant about my beliefs and lifestyle from some old out of touch person in a dress i’ll go see my mother. And while we’re at it. If I’d been the person in charge of dealing with paedo priests for a large number of years then I wouldn’t be [this frackin’ surprised](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11313328). > [@](#): > > During his flight from Rome, in response to a question from the BBC, the Pope said the scandal surrounding the abuse of children by Catholic priests had come as a great personal shock to him. > [@](#): > > In the desert state of Arizona, the case of Father Michael Teta was sent to Cardinal Ratzinger’s office in 1997 after a long church trial had found him guilty of abusing boys in their late teens and young men. > > He was among a number of priests whose behaviour led the local church to pay out millions of dollars in settlement to victims. > > The church court only charged Teta with acts against young men. But the case file sent to Rome included allegations that he had abused a boy aged between 14 and 15. > > After reaching Cardinal Ratzinger’s office in 1997 the appeal took a further seven and a half years to resolve, ending with Teta’s dismissal from the priesthood in 2004. > > The victims campaigner and canon lawyer, Father Tom Doyle, is highly critical of the delay. “There is no credible answer as to why that case sat there for seven-and-a-half years. I’ve never in my career as a canonist heard of a case taking that long on appeal - I never have.” [BBC Panorama](http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_8985000/8985835.stm) ---
**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/68 "2010-09-17T10:24:39Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > What percentage of the UK is atheist these days anyway? A Nice high number I would hope. I would think that actually a very high percentage of people would classify themselves as Christian while actually being, for all practical purposes anyway, atheists. We just don’t care about religion much in this country (well, our own anyway), and we don’t think about it. Most people who classify as Chirstians won’t have been to a Church for services (weddings etc. excluded) in many years. We are the opposite of the US in that respect. We are an officially relgious country that’s actually secular while the US is an officially secular state that’s actually heavily religious. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/69 "2010-09-17T10:28:39Z")
My thoughts on the matter - [in song!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRDfut2Vx0&has_verified=1) Warning seriously **NSFW** unless your office likes a lot of profanity set to a catchy beat. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/70 "2010-09-17T10:30:19Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Blame socialized health care. Here in the states insurance would get her a real healer, maybe a Pentecostal that will swing a snake or two in her direction. Except we see that she has been treated by two Popes so this is clearly a pre-existing condition. Sucks to be her. For serious. And what’s up with the ethnic minorities hogging all the Popecare, anyway ? ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/71 "2010-09-17T10:30:20Z")
> [@](#): > > I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/72 "2010-09-17T11:07:08Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > What percentage of the UK is atheist these days anyway? A Nice high number I would hope. A tricky number to pin down. A lot of people will put down CofE or CofS on a survey, but would have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a non-funeral/wedding service. I’m in my early forties, and I don’t know anybody my age or younger who actually goes to church. Our local minister is great though, she’s well liked and does a valuable job in the community, a sort of roving social worker role, always there with patience and a kind word and a cup of tea. I’m not convinced she’s all that big on the whole “God” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/73 "2010-09-17T11:50:04Z")
I just heard a brief snippet on the radio at lunch time, William Hague was waxing lyrical about the great people of our nation who have benfited from a catholic education. Not sure which station it was on as I was walking and heard it from a stationary car. Hope he climbs out of the Pope’s arse soon. According to [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism) 20% of the UK population are atheists, but as many people just opt for CofE for ease and due to laziness I suspect the actual figure is higher. Particularly if you figure in agnostics who lean towards atheism. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/74 "2010-09-17T14:32:04Z")
> [@Icerigger](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator, by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. > > Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf > [@](#): > > My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people… When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited. > > -Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922 And much more of the same: [Hitler and Christianity - quotes from speeches](http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm) collated at [nobeliefs.com](http://nobeliefs.com) and sourced from: > [@](#): > > Baynes, Norman H. Ed. “The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939,” Vol. 1 of 2, Oxford University Press, 1942 > > Cornwell, John, “Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII,” Viking, 1999 > > Steigmann-Gall, Richard “The Holy Reich: Nazi conception of Christianity, 1919-1945,” Cambridge University Press, 2003 And while we are at it - do we hear Joey The Rat bashing the explicitly roman catholic fascists in Italy, Portugal and Spain at the same time? No we don’t. It’s the same dishonest shit we always get from this vile little man. The way he bangs on about the failings of the Church to deal with abusive priests when it was precisely his job to do so for many years. And meanwhile - let’s look at just how seriously JTR takes dealing with abusive priests shall we? [Yes. Let’s. I wonder what we will find?](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/15/paedophile-priests-active-church-role) > [@](#): > > More than half of the Catholic clergy jailed for paedophile activity in England and Wales remain in the priesthood – with several receiving financial support from church authorities Quick - someone with a feather. Knock me the frack down. > [@](#): > > The allegations, shown on Channel 4 News, will fuel hostility towards a trip that is proving controversial on many levels and in many quarters. > > The investigation examines one of the key recommendations in the Nolan report, which was published in the wake of damaging disclosures of clerical sexual abuse and cover-ups at the start of the decade and was designed to root out sex offenders and prevent paedophiles from entering the priesthood. > > It said that any cleric sentenced to a year or more in jail for sexual abuse should face laicisation – meaning they were to be stripped of their priesthood and privileges. > > But at least 14 of the 22 priests who have served a year or more behind bars are still members of the clergy and 10 of these appear in the most recent edition of the Catholic Directory, the official yearbook of the church. Only eight of the 22 men have been dismissed from their positions. > > One of those featured in tonight’s programme, Fr John Coughlan, was jailed in 2005. Although he no longer leads services, he is still a priest and lives in church-owned property. Surprised anyone? Bueller? ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/75 "2010-09-17T18:40:59Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > Then he should have shut the fuck up then. When i want a disapproving rant about my beliefs and lifestyle from some old out of touch person in a dress i’ll go see my mother. 😃 Quite. We never stop hearing about the ‘shrillness’ and ‘stridency’ of atheists who speak up about their beliefs, even though for the most part they speak up only when confronted directly in dialogue with theists, or indirectly by asinine public statements (such as _the one that is the subject of this thread_), and don’t usually do so by comparing theists to Nazis. By contrast, when the Pope spews offensive and divisive drivel, the **Mr. Moto** s of this world brush it off with “it’s his job”. **Mr. Moto** ’s thesis appears to be, that if it is someone’s job to be a cunt, we can’t criticise them for being cunts. It does, however, suggest one way in which any atheists who might want to tell theists that they’re evil scum who should just fuck off and die, can avoid **Mr. Moto’s** whining. Establish your own religion, which carries as one of its core tenets, that everyone who is not a member of that religion should FOAD. Declare yourself the head of said religion. Then go and preach the gospel of ‘everyone else FOAD’. **Mr. Moto** would not _dream_ of criticising you for just doing your job! Would you, **Mr. Moto**? [QUOTE=tagos] And while we’re at it. If I’d been the person in charge of dealing with paedo priests for a large number of years then I wouldn’t be [this frackin’ surprised](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11313328). [QUOTE=BBC News Article] During his flight from Rome, in response to a question from the BBC, the Pope said the scandal surrounding the abuse of children by Catholic priests had come as a great personal shock to him. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] Now **tagos** , I don’t think you’re being quite fair to the Pope here. I’m quite sure he’s telling the truth. He’s not expressing ‘great personal shock’ at the abuse of children by Catholic priests. He’s expressing shock at _the scandal surrounding_ such abuse! And I can believe he really is shocked by that. I don’t know whether his shock stems from say, a feeling that there’s really nothing terribly wrong with kiddie-diddling, or a feeling that it is only wrong when carried out by people who _aren’t_ God’s representatives on Earth, or just that he didn’t expect these abuses to be found out by the rest of the world. And I won’t put any of those ideas forward as the definitive answer. No need to, when he’s doing such a bang-up job of discrediting his disgusting organisation all on his lonesome. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/76 "2010-09-17T19:04:21Z")
Here’s an idea: how about both the Pope _and_ the various atheist attention whores shut the fuck up and let normal people get on with their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/77 "2010-09-17T19:44:43Z")
> [@constanze](#): > > Um, that’s completly unrelated. The traditional Catholic countries of Italy and Spain were also ruled by fascist dictators, and there was no problem with that. The traditional Catholic country of Ireland wanted to ally with the Nazis to go against the UK. And the US, Canada, UK would not have gone to war with the Nazis over the religion issue. That was never a cause or reason for the war. > > For that matter, secular France was at war with the Nazis. In Spain, more than just okay with it - the Catholic Church was strongly behind Franco during the Civil War, and they did quite well under the Fascists. My daughter is teaching in German public school this year, and they started the school year with a church service, so they are hardly secular even today by American standards. I’m sure this is a long tradition, and I never heard that the Nazis stopped it. Anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/78 "2010-09-17T20:15:49Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Here’s an idea: how about both the Pope _and_ the various atheist attention whores shut the fuck up and let normal people get on with their lives. In practice that amounts to telling atheists to shut up and take it. The believers aren’t going to shut up, and “atheist attention whores” (aka atheists who don’t grovel properly) exist in the first place because the believers won’t leave us alone. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/79 "2010-09-17T20:23:30Z")
More properly, the evangelists aren’t going to shut up. How do you deal with belief sets that _require_ people to push them on you? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997/80 "2010-09-17T20:29:08Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > More properly, the evangelists aren’t going to shut up. How do you deal with belief sets that _require_ people to push them on you? [My Name]Ooooh, I know! Ignore them, and they’ll just go away, right?[/My Name] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pope-says-im-a-nazi-or-godwin-in-one-step/553997.md?page=5)