# The pre-emptive thread seeking to **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 15, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942 "2016-07-15T00:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/1 "2016-07-15T00:34:01Z")
strawman the Nice terror attack into a referendum on gun violence to distract the public. If only France would join the rest of the civilized world and institute gun control they could stop the violence. This has got to stop. Tears and prayers are not enough. We need ACTION. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/2 "2016-07-15T00:39:47Z")
Oh well spotted. I suppose we can throw this one on the nonexistent pile of gunned down corpses towering over France. If only they could aspire to an American class of random massacre. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/3 "2016-07-15T00:42:53Z")
Here I was looking forward to making you look like an ass, and you’ve gone and done it yourself. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/4 "2016-07-15T00:44:01Z")
Good job. No event too tragic to use it to take some sort of obscure political cheap shot, eh? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/5 "2016-07-15T00:48:50Z")
Since most of the people were killed by a guy driving a truck, it’s pretty fucking stupid to bring gun control into it. Oh, why don’t we require background checks on truck buyers and make sure they’re properly licensed? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/6 "2016-07-15T01:01:17Z")
Jesus Christ, dude, they haven’t even cleaned up the blood from the streets yet. Have some fucking compassion. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/7 "2016-07-15T01:14:04Z")
With 70 dead, I’d stay controlling their guns wasn’t the problem. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/8 "2016-07-15T01:17:14Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > strawman the Nice terror attack into a referendum on gun violence to distract the public. > > If only France would join the rest of the civilized world and institute gun control they could stop the violence. > > This has got to stop. Tears and prayers are not enough. We need ACTION. What a classless moron you are. Can we let the blood dry in the streets before you turn this tragedy into a political circus? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/9 "2016-07-15T01:20:54Z")
Classy…? I’d say we’re just lucky this thread doesn’t have a link to The Pointer Sisters “Neutron Dance”… ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/10 "2016-07-15T01:29:27Z")
This thread is something of an accomplishment, really - if only by virtue of the fact that the majority of the general public could not stoop to such idiotic, crass, and odious drivel if they were actively trying. So, for continuously and insistently exploring the depths human behaviour can sink to, **Stringbean** , I salute you. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/11 "2016-07-15T01:32:42Z")
Tasteful. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/12 "2016-07-15T01:46:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What a classless moron you are. Can we let the blood dry in the streets before you turn this tragedy into a political circus? No. I’ve seen too much blood spilled already. Too many grieving families. The time for France to enact gun control is NOW. Tears and prayers are not enough. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/13 "2016-07-15T01:48:15Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Oh well spotted. I suppose we can throw this one on the nonexistent pile of gunned down corpses towering over France. If only they could aspire to an American class of random massacre. Based on what happened last November and now tonight it would seem the Americans have much to aspire to. Which is why France needs sensible gun control to stop these massacres. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/14 "2016-07-15T01:48:51Z")
Fuckwit ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/15 "2016-07-15T01:48:58Z")
Late word is that there were guns and grenades in the truck. Not sure if this will turn out to be correct; things are very much in flux. (When I went out for my afternoon walk, the death toll was thirty; when I got back it was 70. Jeez.) And, yeah, making a straw-man attack about “My political opponents would say such-and-such about it” is a really crass maneuver. The fact that his political opponents would, in fact, not say any such thing only makes it more inept. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/16 "2016-07-15T01:49:18Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > No. I’ve seen too much blood spilled already. Too many grieving families. > > The time for France to \*\*enact gun control \*\*is NOW. Tears and prayers are not enough. He used a truck. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/17 "2016-07-15T01:50:26Z")
They have. Belgium hasn’t to the same extent. It’s like the closest gun store in Chicago is a couple blocks into Cicero, with free travel between the two. Though none of that matters to you, since you are a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/18 "2016-07-15T01:52:41Z")
No, probably just a moron. Guessing he doesn’t get to fuck much, at least non-commercially. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/19 "2016-07-15T01:54:57Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > strawman the Nice terror attack into a referendum on gun violence to distract the public. > > If only France would join the rest of the civilized world and institute gun control they could stop the violence. > > This has got to stop. Tears and prayers are not enough. We need ACTION. 80 dead in France and you have to bring up THIS shit??? You are an idiot and deserve the ripping you are about to receive. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942/20 "2016-07-15T01:59:04Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Based on what happened last November and now tonight it would seem the Americans have much to aspire to. > > Which is why France needs sensible gun control to stop these massacres. [Gun control in France.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#France) > [@](#): > > ``` > In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting licence or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibres, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun). > > The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one[clarification needed] semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds. Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership. > > ``` [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pre-emptive-thread-seeking-to/759942.md?page=2)