# The pregnant man is now a father **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 4, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305 "2008-07-04T16:31:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/1 "2008-07-04T16:31:46Z")
> **[The Times & The Sunday Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/)** > > News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times You may recall the pregnant man we discussed a few months ago, it seems he has given birth to a healthy baby girl. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/2 "2008-07-04T17:01:42Z")
You know, I saw that, and I thought “Now at least everyone will shut up about it”. No offense intended, **Antinor**. 🙂 I _do_ realize that it will probably happen again. I mean, well, maybe not that person but another person in a similar situation might. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/3 "2008-07-04T17:19:44Z")
[QUOTE=NinetyWt] You know, I saw that, and I thought “Now at least everyone will shut up about it”. No offense intended, **Antinor**. 🙂 [/QUOTE] None taken. Just thought I’d let people know as a followup to the prior discussion. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/4 "2008-07-04T17:57:11Z")
Congratulations to them. I hope they can get some peace. ---
**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/5 "2008-07-04T18:32:41Z")
[QUOTE=NinetyWt] I _do_ realize that it will probably happen again. I mean, well, maybe not that person but another person in a similar situation might. [/QUOTE] Actually, he was far from the first; he was just the first to publicize it. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/6 "2008-07-04T19:29:16Z")
[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth] I hope they can get some peace. [/QUOTE] Which, I suspect, will be awful for them. ---
**Author:** ![PharmBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@PharmBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PharmBoy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/7 "2008-07-04T23:46:25Z")
This person is not a man; this is a very mixed-up women. You can’t change your sex just by taking a few shots. Also, last time sI checked, men can not have babies. Finally, if you check her chromosomes, you note that she does not an a Y chromosome; ergo, she is a woman. I feel very sorry for this child. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/8 "2008-07-05T00:00:29Z")
Hey **PharmBoy** , since you know so much about this topic and seem to have it all figured out, maybe you can clarify something for me: everyone with 2 X chromosomes is a woman, right? ---
**Author:** ![katpohl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@katpohl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katpohl)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/9 "2008-07-05T00:04:07Z")
She is a woman that had an operation , she kept her female parts insides and modified the out side parts some little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/10 "2008-07-05T00:08:16Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] it seems he has given birth to a healthy baby girl. [/QUOTE] At least that’s the default assumption, for the time being. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/11 "2008-07-05T01:09:19Z")
[QUOTE=PharmBoy] This person is not a man; this is a very mixed-up women. You can’t change your sex just by taking a few shots. Also, last time sI checked, men can not have babies. Finally, if you check her chromosomes, you note that she does not an a Y chromosome; ergo, she is a woman. I feel very sorry for this child. [/QUOTE] And not every one with a Y chromosome is male; ever heard of Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome? Or are those people just mixed-up males? ---
**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/12 "2008-07-05T04:54:38Z")
And then, of course, there are those men who are actually XXY… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/13 "2008-07-05T12:49:54Z")
And women who are XY. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/14 "2008-07-05T12:50:59Z")
[QUOTE=Broomstick] And women who are XY. [/QUOTE] Edit: Oh, nevermind - I see someone else already mentioned AIS, ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/15 "2008-07-05T19:20:49Z")
I cant understand why someone who professes to want to become male so badly gets themselves pregnant. I cant help but think that the poor little kid is going to grow up with multiple complexes seemingly a case of Me first and sod if its going to be good to have/for the baby. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/16 "2008-07-05T20:47:42Z")
[QUOTE=Lust4Life] I cant understand why someone who professes to want to become male so badly gets themselves pregnant… [/QUOTE] As I understand it his wife is unable to bear children herself. Now that they have a child is he getting his uterus & ovaries removed? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/17 "2008-07-05T23:46:22Z")
Probably not until they’re certain they don’t want any more kids. ---
**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/18 "2008-07-06T17:49:17Z")
[QUOTE=Lust4Life] I cant understand why someone who professes to want to become male so badly gets themselves pregnant. I cant help but think that the poor little kid is going to grow up with multiple complexes seemingly a case of Me first and sod if its going to be good to have/for the baby. [/QUOTE] Too unwilling to try adoption first? Although I know it’s difficult for homosexuals to adopt, I don’t see why someone who is legally male and married to someone who is biologically and legally female would have problems adopting. If he’s accepted as male by the law and his wife is unable to reproduce, then why not try adoption? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/19 "2008-07-06T18:02:04Z")
> [@PharmBoy](#): > > This person is not a man; this is a very mixed-up women. > [@Lust4Life](#): > > I cant understand why someone who professes to want to become male so badly gets themselves pregnant. > > I cant help but think that the poor little kid is going to grow up with multiple complexes seemingly a case of Me first and sod if its going to be good to have/for the baby. It’s always so fascinating to read these sorts of un- and ill-informed pronouncements on a board supposedly dedicated to fighting ignorance. > [@nashiitashii](#): > > If he’s accepted as male by the law and his wife is unable to reproduce, then why not try adoption? Maybe they wanted a child that was biologically related to at least one of them. Same reason that couples spend money on fertility treatments. If he’s biologically capable of having a child who’s genetically related to him, why shouldn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305/20 "2008-07-06T18:25:08Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Maybe they wanted a child that was biologically related to at least one of them. Same reason that couples spend money on fertility treatments. If he’s biologically capable of having a child who’s genetically related to him, why shouldn’t he? [/QUOTE] Honestly, when anyone decides to spend money on fertility treatments in the pursuit of “it _must_ be genetically related to me,” I find it incredibly selfish. Personally, I’m not interested in children at this point, but I’d rather adopt than make my own because I know there are so many kids in need of adoption in the US. There’s also an additional “you can’t have it both ways” thought that I have in regard to this situation. Biologically, men aren’t supposed to be pregnant, and this has carried over socially. If he wants to be recognized as a man, he should probably not engage in behaviors that would normally be exclusively assigned to women. I’m fine with people deciding their own gender, but I think this particular situation and the attention whoring around it is a bit ridiculous. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-pregnant-man-is-now-a-father/455305.md?page=2)