# The President and a gun

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 25, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097 "2007-07-25T16:07:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/41 "2007-07-26T21:53:30Z")

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> It seems like semantics. A foot soldier ultimately reports to the President (after several intermediates). A U.S. Marshall ultimately reports to the President. It would be a contortion of logic to say that privileges are granted to everyone EXCEPT the overall leader.

So Bill Clinton was a Marine? He commanded the United States Marine Corps, so now he’s a former Marine, right?

And can the President prescribe medicine? There are doctors working for the federal government and the President is in charge of them, so he must be a doctor. I guess he’s a lawyer and an Indian Chief too.

Condoleezza Rice reports to the President. Does that mean George Bush is a black woman?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/42 "2007-07-26T23:34:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried]  
But the president wouldn’t be exempt from gun laws (e.g. laws on carrying concealed weapons) and would be treated like any private citizen in that respect, wouldn’t he?  
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Step 1: Bush fills out a federal concealed weapons permit  
Step 2: “Gonzales! Sign this.”

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/43 "2007-07-27T00:57:01Z")

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[QUOTE=SaintCad]  
Step 1: Bush fills out a federal concealed weapons permit  
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except that no such license exists.

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**Author:** ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/44 "2007-07-27T19:43:50Z")

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[QUOTE=pkbites]  
except that no such license exists.  
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That’s what they want you to think.

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**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/45 "2007-07-27T21:42:59Z")

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[QUOTE=jtgain]  
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If that’s not good enough, he is the Commander in Chief of the military. You don’t arrest soldiers at Ft. Bragg for carrying guns, right?

[snip/].  
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Well, actually, they do. They being the local law enforcement teams and the military police. I am a Soldier at Ft Bragg, and I still must follow the local laws regarding carrying of a weapon. Even when going to a firing range or on an exercise that requires me to carry my rifle, there are still orders signed, memos submitted etc that authorize me to carry a weapon. So, even if you consider him a Soldier as Commander in Chief, he would still have to have permission to take out his firearm, or follow local laws.

SSG Schwartz

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/46 "2007-07-27T22:10:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Sgt Schwartz]  
So, even if you consider him a Soldier as Commander in Chief, he would still have to have permission to take out his firearm, or follow local laws.

SSG Schwartz  
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Who would he need to get permission from? Himself?  
ETA: BTW are you a Super Duper or a Dirty Nasty? (I assume you will get the reference, I doubt Bragg has changed that much.)

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**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-and-a-gun/413097/47 "2007-07-27T22:54:23Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
Who would he need to get permission from? Himself?  
ETA: BTW are you a Super Duper or a Dirty Nasty? (I assume you will get the reference, I doubt Bragg has changed that much.)  
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Super-Duper, but not on active status. Thanks for asking. 🙂  
But back to the hijack, IMHO, he would have to sign out his official carry weapon from who ever was on armorer detail in Congress that day. 😛

SSG Schwartz

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